Guns of the Darksiders

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Fingers McGee

Quote from: Steel Horse Bailey on May 04, 2010, 06:08:44 AM
Fingers, that sure is easy on the eyes!  That's outstanding!  Congratulations!  Next question:  what load will you be using?  The 25 grain full-power with conical, or the lighter 17-20 grain loads with the roundball?

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;D   ;)    ;)

I was thinking the conical might be the way to go with this one.  Of course, they'll be gold plated  ;D
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Desert Drifter

Well, I'll see if I can post a couple of pictures without embarrassing myself this time.  This is a restored 1874 Sharps sporting rifle caliber 40-70 BN, 24 1/2 inch 1/2 octagon 1/2 round barrel.









Hopefully they come out.

'Drifter

Steel Horse Bailey

Absolutely gorgeous, Drifter!
"May Your Powder always be Dry and Black; Your Smoke always White; and Your Flames Always Light the Way to Eternal Shooting Fulfillment !"

Border Ruffian

Looks great, Why did the 1874 models have a patchbox?  I thought those were only needed on the percussion models.
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Desert Drifter

I'm with you Ruffian.  I thought the same way.  The rifle is an original Sharps, but I dont think it is original to the way it was shipped from the factory.  I've came to accept that stocks could have been swapped out.  The rifle is what, 130 years old?  Alot could have been replaced in those years. 

Thanks for your comments gents,

'Drifter

Steel Horse Bailey

It was a matter of esthetics, gents.  That was not at all uncommon, back in the transition era.  The riflemen of the day were used to seeing a patchbox (and were handy to carry more than just patches in them) so several of the rifles made during the changeover from percussion to cartridge had the decorative patchboxes included.  The "Officer's Model" of the Trapdoor Springfield had the same.  As did the H&R reproductions.

Ruffian, you said the KEY part:  "I thought those were only needed on the percussion models."

Needed, vs. wanted.

Drifter, I think you'll find that it was NOT added at a later date, rather it may have been REPLACED back to original configuration.


I'm not an expert, but from what I've seen in my research, the Officer's Model of many of these different rifles included the patchbox, as well as SOME of the first cartridge models AFTER the percussion guns.
"May Your Powder always be Dry and Black; Your Smoke always White; and Your Flames Always Light the Way to Eternal Shooting Fulfillment !"

Desert Drifter

I found out more about my Sharps today.  It is called an "A" model.  It mas made between 1879-1882.  This is a time when Sharps was in financial trouble and assembled rifles with parts on hand.  Most of the rifles were sold to J.P. Lower and Carlos Grove, two gun outiftters in Denver at the time.  This one was one of Lower's.  The 24 1/2" half octagon barrel is correct for an "A" model.  Along with the forestock and butt stock.  The patchbox could certainly come with an "A" model also.  There is a letter "A" cartouche on one of the side plates of the action.  Makes me feel some better now that I know a little more about it.

'Drifter

Steel Horse Bailey

Quote from: Desert Drifter on May 15, 2010, 06:15:02 PM
I found out more about my Sharps today.  It is called an "A" model.  It mas made between 1879-1882.  This is a time when Sharps was in financial trouble and assembled rifles with parts on hand.  Most of the rifles were sold to J.P. Lower and Carlos Grove, two gun outiftters in Denver at the time.  This one was one of Lower's.  The 24 1/2" half octagon barrel is correct for an "A" model.  Along with the forestock and butt stock.  The patchbox could certainly come with an "A" model also.  There is a letter "A" cartouche on one of the side plates of the action.  Makes me feel some better now that I know a little more about it.

'Drifter


It's REALLY interesting when you can find out history this specific about your OWN gun!  Cool!
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Short Knife Johnson

That is also an outstanding restoration job.  The stamping is not degraded one bit.  I've seen re-dos were the preservation of the roll stamping was the last thing in mind. 

Dino

Here's my Uberti 1849 Pocket.



And here's the same gun with faux ivory grips. 



I've been looking at different conversion cylinder options and will probably go with a Kirst, when they become available again.  :)

Smokin Gun

Here's one I been workin' on...1861 Colt Navy w/ special order 5 1/2" bbl Pietta,/Kirst 38spl...I like i like this :O)



Another 6 weeks till I can shoot left handed again. Resent njury/surgeries...
But I lik this lil' gal ... will get me practice with my right hand, arm and eye...
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Dino

LOVE that loading gate, Smokin Gun!  
Did you cut that channel yourself?

Wagon Box Willy

Howdy Pards,

After a year of having hardly any time to think of guns cuz work's been crazy I picked up a Remington 1875 from EMF this week.  Going out to the back yard and try it out right after this post :)

Here it is with some 24 gr backyard loads of fffg and flax seed filler with JP200's.  Everything seems right with it, cant wait to shoot it.

EDIT:  I wasn't exactly ready but because EMF isn't going to offer them anymore I grabbed the second.



Calamity Jane

I shoot a matched pair of USFA's in 44-40, 7.5" (first ones to ever go north of the 49th) 'n' a pair of 1858 Remington C&B. Got a '73 Winchester from Uberti in 44-40, a Brazilian 20 Ga, 'n' a old Belgium 12 Ga  open hammer.

Ain't none of 'em ever tasted nothin' but Holy Black!

P.S. I'm too lazy to post pictures - ya wanna see 'em, go look 'em up!

Abilene

Hey Jane, nice to see ya.  Rink not open yet?  :D
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Drayton Calhoun

The first step of becoming a good shooter is knowing which end the bullet comes out of and being on the other end.

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Quote from: madcratebuilder on November 15, 2009, 07:07:50 PM
A few new photos.  Not to much new happening other than my shoulder stocked Dragoon.
The 2nd and 3rd gen collection.


cased sets and strange things.






I remember when EMF offered the long barreled Dragoon with the shoulder stock, they also offered it in a set with a standard length and Sheriffs length barrel. I emailed them about it and nobody at EMF remembered it. It was in the mid eighties...
The first step of becoming a good shooter is knowing which end the bullet comes out of and being on the other end.

Fingers McGee

Latest pair of revolvers.  1864 C.H. Rigdon, CSA, Augusta Revolvers.

The pair:


Revolver 1


Revolver 2


Close-up of 2:


Another closeup of #2

Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee;
SASS Regulator 28654 - L - TG; NCOWS 3638
AKA Man of many Colts; Diabolical Ken's alter ego; stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman/Pistoleer; Rangemaster
Founding Member - Central Ozarks Western Shooters
Member - Southern Missouri Rangers;
NRA Patron Life: GOA; CCRKBA; SAF; SV-114 (CWO4 ret); STORM 327

"Cynic:  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees thing as they are, not as they should be"  Ambrose Bierce

Smokin Gun

Got this lil' Thunderer Model 1877 Colt made in 1878 .41Colt CF(or Long Colt) with a Colt letter...







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SASS# 19634
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Dr. Bob

Dang!!  Now I gotta wipe the drool off of my shirt!!! ::) ;D  That's a beauty for sure.  ;D
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