Guns of the Darksiders

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Lucky R.K.,

Thanks for the advice ... I will just be shooting SASS with it ... my eyesight and age is against open or peep sights and I don't see that getting any better at age ...

And there is a couple of  big gunshops nearby that I hope to stumble on somebodies unwanted Pedersoli rolling block ... and most probably will go with a .45-70 ... in that way I am a little 'luckier' ... I would imagine that  .45-70 will be the largest pool of used guns ...

[Major 2]

Sweet cased set Bishop. 

Here are a few pictures of my latest.  A 1 of 250 Grant/Lee matched pair cased set of 2nd Generation 1851 Navies.  Had a gentleman email me offering the set for sale cause he knew I was a collector.  He was the original owner and had never put the set together.  Everything was still in it's original wrapping and boxes.  He only took the pistols out from time to time to oil them up.  They've never been cocked, and the flask had never been unwrapped.  The pistols and accessories had never been put in the case (till yesterday).  I unwrapped everything, placed the items in the case, photographed the case, then rewrapped and boxed everything back up.  This set will stay as NIB as possible.


And a few more

In the last photo on the round TG frame model what is stamped on the left side barrel flat "

[Fingers McGee]

  In the last photo on the round TG frame model what is stamped on the left side barrel flat "

Round Trigger Guard says "Robert E Lee Commemorative Nineteen Seventy-One"

Square backed one says "Ulysses S Grant Commemorative Nineteen Seventy-One"

[Griff]

Fingers,

Nice set.  And for a collector, very desirable.  However, a coupla years ago I ran across a set that HAD been fired, and the gent was willing to part with them for a VERY reasonable fee.  In fact, less than what two standard 2nd gen 1851s would have been, less than even the deals I got on the two that I did buy.  They didn't have the accessories or case any longer, but I really considered them for my shooters, but ultimately, they slide by the way and someone else got them... or at least I hope someone did, as I'd hate to think of them just languishing around in someone's safe... collecting dust... unused... unappreciated.

My reasoning (read excuse), for not getting them to shoot?  Didn't think I could stand having one with a sq trigger guard and one with a round!  I know, feeble... but hey, like I said, it was MY excuse!

[Fingers McGee]

I was asked on another forum for a photo shoot of my Confederate revolver repros; so, I decided to post it here as well.  But, before anyone says anything about it.  Yes, I know there are a couple revolvers used by the CSA that have reproductions that are not represented here.  I have yet to add the Spiller and Burr and LeMat to my collection.  They're coming, I just havent gotten them yet.  The third revolver that most everyone will say is missing is the Schneider and Glassick.  One of these days I might get one; but, it wasn't really a CSA revolver.  There were at most 50 of them made and the real figure is probably a lot lower.  In all of the books I have on CSA small arms, the Schneider and Glassick is nothing more than a footnote.  From what I've read, there are only 3 authenticated examples in existence and one of them had an iron fram and round barrel instead of a brass frame and octagonal barrel.  

Anyhow, here's the picture:

Clockwise from the top:  1864 CH Rigdon made from 2007 Uberti L&R, Navy Arms/Pietta G&G mfg 1997, Navy Arms/GU G&G mfg 1960, Navy Arms/GU G&G mfg 1960(?), Traditions/Pietta Dance Brothers .44 mfg 2007, Navy Arms/Pietta L&R mfg 1979, 1864 CH Rigdon made from Uberti L&R mfg 1973

[Mason Stillwell]

Wow Great Photo and Great looking Guns. Thank for Posting

[Claypipe]

Great layout, you definitely have a gifted eye. Thanks for sharing!

CP

[Harley Starr]

have you tried using one of these?


http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=651/Product/FLEX_HONE_RIFLE_POLISHING_SYSTEM

Never heard of it before rooster. Thanks. How well has it worked for you?

[Steel Horse Bailey]

Never heard of it before rooster. Thanks. How well has it worked for you?

I'm not Rooster, but we're friends!

Anyway, I've used those chamber hones before in my 12 Ga. and the chambers of my 45 cal. revolvers and rifles.  They worked great ... as long as you use the oil that Brownell's sells for it (it's special and just for honing, not like other "just plain" oils,) and you don't take shortcuts like too high RPM, etc.  The directions are few and uncomplicated, ya just need to USE them.  I noticed more improvement in my shotguns.  It DOES get a touch pricey, however, because you'll use 85% - 95% of the "life" of the hones on each gun.  The impregnated balls wear away quickly.  Good thing however, when their useful "life" has finished, they can still be used in the chambers of your rifles and revolvers to help take out the crud that forms in the chamber right up at the neck of the case - you know, that gritty-waxy-crap that is there after a long session of firing smokeyless rounds. (No - you DON'T get those "crud rings" from shooting BP.)

The shotgun hone slicked my chambers (I did 2 guns) up so that most fired cases will fall out when the action is opened. 

Be careful, 'tho.  Those things come in coarse and med-fine.  You can take off TOO much metal if you use the coarse hone too "vigorously" and at too high RPM.  Best is to start with the coarse, then finish with the finer hone.

Hope this helps.

[Harley Starr]

Thanks Bailey.

[CPL Jayhawker Jake]

Not much compared to the wonderful pictures you guys have posted, but until I actually get to see my new toy in person, this pic will have to do:

[Marshal Deadwood]

Love them fluted '60 Armys !

MD

[Pony Racer]

I just saw the continued posts on the 43 spanish rollers....

I think it is very gun dependent.  I know I got lucky with the gun I got since it is near museum quality (only lacking a bayonet) and the bore was pristeen.

I have had great luck with using my shotgun load of  2f BP with a cookie and the Buffalo Brothers 43 spanish bullet and using the Lee dies to reload.

I use a wad cookie since the barrel is so long (36 C&B wads work great betw two thin wads) and they fit the necked portion of the 43 spanish case nicely.

At 100-150 yds I can easily hit the 14 x 14 plate or a nice sized pumpkin!


PR

[Fingers McGee]

Just picked these up recently.  Ft Sumter and Gettysburg Commemorative 1851 Navies by Hawes Firearms.  Made in 1971 by Armi San Paolo.  Matching serial numbers (A030 and B030

[Capt. Jack McQuesten]

My trio of Pietta New Army's.......

[Mason Stillwell]

Those are some fine looking shooters. I am a remmy fan ! The wood on those grips is very nice also ! Thanks for posting 

[Hoof Hearted]

Love them fluted '60 Armys !

MD

How about a full fluted Remington Army?

[Steel Horse Bailey]

How about a full fluted Remington Army?

Nice gun, Hoofie!

One of my very faves is an 1862 Pocket Police with a 4" barrel & fluted cylinder, but not full flutes.  They are so compact and yet still .36 cal. power.  It would be in the Olde West about like carrying a .380 nowadays ... which I do when I don't have enough "room" to hide my 1911A1 Commander.

[Hoof Hearted]

Thanks SHB!

Here's my new favorite:





BP only affair.........60 grains of it!

[Steel Horse Bailey]

Awesome!

I have a 1st Mod., 2nd Gen. Colt Dragoon I've been thinking of sending ... to you or Raven ... to have a conversion cylinder fitted, so I could, with the C&B cylinder too, have the best of both worlds.

Which I perceive is exactly what you did, 'tho you might have started with a 2nd Model.

It wouldn't be exactly authentic, but with a cylinder that has a slightly longer throat, one could load up some, uh ... what would they be called? ... 45 ELC (Extra Long Colt)? 45 Colt Magnum? er, .454 Casull, with BP and shoot away!!  It would be sort of a "secret" thing, since a 454 C factory load wouldn't do very well.  Probably would't be worth the effort, what with possible accidents after I'm gone and someone ELSE discovers the "secret" and chambers a factory Casull round.

Never Mind.  But it would be fun.  The most fun I've had with mine (C&B cylinder) is when I put in 19-20 grs. of 3F, then seat a 30 gr. Pyrodex pellet.  That takes it up to the max designed Dragoon load of 50 grains ... and it rocks!  I tried it a few times with a "Buffalo Ball-et" which I think was about 180-190 grs. (or about 40-50 grs. heavier than a standard roundball) and it was the first time I ever experienced smokeyless-feeling recoil from a BP revolver!  It had the "felt recoil" approximately of what my Python does when firing full-power 158-180 gr. hunting rounds.  Not a lot of recoil, it IS a gun weighing more than 4.1 pounds, after all, but it was noticeable and a much sharper "hit" rather than the "shove" I normally get from full power BP loads.  Most folks wouldn't tolerate it, and I only shoot it like that once in a while - it's an expensive load, after all!  Normally, I shoot around 42-43 grs. of 3F behind a round ball and THAT is a good and VERY accurate load.  Actually, if I don't put in at least 32-34 grs. of powder, the ball stops down in the rebated portion (where the chamber narrows by the nipple opening) and I don't get any compression and then have inconsistent loads.  Over 35 grs. guarantees good compression and consistency.

But back to YOUR  new "favorite:"  COOL!!