Guns of the Darksiders

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Four Eyed Floyd

Just got my 1851 RM today, haven't even had a chance to shoot it yet.

Four Eyed Floyd
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Dr. Bob

Kewel!! ;D  Hours of fun right there! ::) ;D
Regards, Doc
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Leo Tanner

Quote from: Four Eyed Floyd on May 08, 2009, 08:16:03 PM
Just got my 1851 RM today, haven't even had a chance to shoot it yet.



Hi boss, I'm, uh sick, I uh got this swine flu thing, and uh need a day off.

Then off ta the range!!!

Nice gun, let us know how it shoots.
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

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Trinity

Quote from: Four Eyed Floyd on May 08, 2009, 08:16:03 PM
Just got my 1851 RM today, haven't even had a chance to shoot it yet.



Looks like mine.  ;D

I love it, it's one of my FAV-o-ryte toys!
"Finest partner I ever had.  Cleans his paws and buries his leavin's.  Lot more than some folks I know."

                   


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Appalachian Ed

I just picked up this New Model. Delivered Dec 1864. Covered in inspector marks. about 80% Blue, mint bore, mint nipples, full blue in cylinders, probably never issued or fired. Super tight action. 100% case color on hammer. No metal wear just blue wear, probably from handling and playing over the past 145 years.

I though yall might enjoy the pics.





"We believed then that we were right and we believe now that we were right then."
- John H. Lewis, 9th Va. Infantry

Dr. Bob

Regards, Doc
Dr. Bob Butcher,
NCOWS 2420, Senator
HR 4
GAF 405,
NRA Life,
KGC 8.
Warthog
Motto: Clean mind  -  Clean body,   Take your pick

Leo Tanner

That is sweet.  Not many of us are fortunate enough ta have "the real deal".

Gotta ask, are gonna shoot it?  I don't know if I could resist.
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

religio SENIOR est exordium of scientia : tamen fossor contemno sapientia quod instruction.

Appalachian Ed

Yea, I shot it. It was like going back in time... ;D ;D ;D

I have several original Civil War carbines, muskets, and pistols, and I have shot them all, at least once.

-Ed
"We believed then that we were right and we believe now that we were right then."
- John H. Lewis, 9th Va. Infantry

Leo Tanner

That's a fine one there.  I can see why you'd want ta change the grips.  I'm sure you'll be having lots of fun with that one.
"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

religio SENIOR est exordium of scientia : tamen fossor contemno sapientia quod instruction.

Fingers McGee

I recently purchased a Military Model 3rd Model Dragoon w/shoulder stock off of GunBroker.  It hit the doorstep today.  The pistol was made by Armi San Marco in 1977.  At first glance, it looks to be in very good condition.  Metal was dry as a bone.  A little surface rust in the cyl notches, around the nipples and on the barrel; but nothing that a little RB-17 and 0000 steel wool won't fix.  Bore is dirty; but in excellent shape,  Nipples are in good shape, no mushrooming and only the faintest hint of nipple mark on the hammer face.  All in all - damn fine shaper for a pistol that's 32 years old and probably hasnt seen any oil in a decade.

First thing I did was cycle the action.  Boy, was that a dissapointment.  Action was terrible, and hammer hung up when the trigger was pulled.  So, I proceeded to break it down.  When I pulled the barrel off, the cylinder fell off, Bolt doesn't hold very well.  In looking at it, it looks like it's a little too short coming through the window.

Found out why the action was so bad, hammer spring screw was only screwed in about half way.  Only thing that kept it in cocntact with the hammer was the grips.  After tightening the hammer spring screw, I put the grips & backstrap back on.  Thats when I found out why the screw was loose.  The hammer spring musta come from an overload spring on a 1 ton or 2 ton truck.  It was all I could do to cock it one handed.  That'll need some lightening.

The shoulder stock furniture is brass - It just has a lot of patina.  I'm not sure if this is the stock that ASM sold with them in the 70s.  The brass around the hammer slot & the underside is too clean, so it may be an Army/Navy stock that was machined to fit.

I havent striped it down totally - yet.  That will come after I run a few cylinders full through it - with and without the shoulder stock.  I plan is to take it out tomorrow sometime and seeing what it will do.  Will save the tune-up for after the first shooting session.

Here are the first pictures of it



Front leaf on sight flipped up:



With stock attached:

Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee;
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Mako

Very Nice Fingers!  Just because of the novelty alone.  You gonna do your Lee Van Cleef impersonation at your next match?
~Mako
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Fingers McGee

Quote from: Mako on June 02, 2009, 12:11:15 AM
You gonna do your Lee Van Cleef impersonation at your next match?
~Mako

Ya never know  ::)
Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee;
SASS Regulator 28654 - L - TG; NCOWS 3638
AKA Man of many Colts; Diabolical Ken's alter ego; stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman/Pistoleer; Rangemaster
Founding Member - Central Ozarks Western Shooters
Member - Southern Missouri Rangers;
NRA Patron Life: GOA; CCRKBA; SAF; SV-114 (CWO4 ret); STORM 327

"Cynic:  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees thing as they are, not as they should be"  Ambrose Bierce

Smokin Gun

Here's a couple new ones for the gallery...
1865 Rogers&Spencer .45Colt Conversion


1863 Starr Single Action Army .44


Other than gettin' ready to go shoot these two...I'm bored to death and bakin' in the Sun.
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Harley Starr

Quote from: Smokin_Gun on June 02, 2009, 09:49:44 PM
Here's a couple new ones for the gallery...
1865 Rogers&Spencer .45Colt Conversion


1863 Starr Single Action Army .44


Other than gettin' ready to go shoot these two...I'm bored to death and bakin' in the Sun.

Howdy Smokin Gun! Name's Ridgway
Love that Rogers and Spencer Conversion, you don't see too many of those. :'( That Starr Revolver is pretty nice but I'm alittle fuzzy on the reloading procedure.
A work in progress.

Smokin Gun

QuoteLove that Rogers and Spencer Conversion, you don't see too many of those.  That Starr Revolver is pretty nice but I'm alittle fuzzy on the reloading procedure.

I like the R&S pretty accurate Re I must say ... the Star Loads like the rest, onlt thing differant is the break top to remove or replace the cylinder...
And thanks,
SG
Mosby's Rangers
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SASS# 19634
http://blackpowdersmoke.com/oldcoots/index.php

Harley Starr

Quote from: Smokin_Gun on July 04, 2009, 07:08:30 AM
I like the R&S pretty accurate Re I must say ... the Star Loads like the rest, onlt thing differant is the break top to remove or replace the cylinder...
And thanks,
SG

Is there a particular part that needs to be removed before you can reload the Starr?
A work in progress.

Mako

Fingers have you shot that Dragoon yet?

We need a report!  Sorry if I missed it somewhere.

~Mako
A brace of 1860s, a Yellowboy Saddle Rifle and a '78 Pattern Colt Scattergun
MCA, MCIA, MOAA, MCL, SMAS, ASME, SAME, BMES

Smokin Gun

QuoteIs there a particular part that needs to be removed before you can reload the Starr?

No part needs to be removed to load the Star ... a thumb screw has to be removed to break open the Starr and remove the cylinder...
::)
Mosby's Rangers
43rd Virginia Cavalry C.S.A.
SASS# 19634
http://blackpowdersmoke.com/oldcoots/index.php

Smokin Gun

My fastdraw '51 Navy .36 with a fluted cylinder and 5" G&G bbl...

Size ciomparison to a Pocket Police .36


Mosby's Rangers
43rd Virginia Cavalry C.S.A.
SASS# 19634
http://blackpowdersmoke.com/oldcoots/index.php

Harley Starr

Quote from: Smokin_Gun on July 05, 2009, 11:42:38 PM
No part needs to be removed to load the Star ... a thumb screw has to be removed to break open the Starr and remove the cylinder...
::)

That's it the Thumb Screw! Now you said it has to be removed. Does it have to be removed from the gun entirely? ???
A work in progress.

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