How many replica variations are there right now?

[Peter M. Eick]

I started wondering about that topic.  I mean if you wanted one of each of the variations available, how many would that take?

You have the:
Cimarron Iron Frame 24"
Cimarron Brass Frame 24"
Cimarron Civil War model
Uberti Iron framed blued
Uberti brass trapper

I know I missed a lot more and then there are commemoratives.

Can anyone add to the list?

[Major 2]

First put the heading

Uberti

Cimarron , Taylor's , Navy Arms,  Dixie Gun Works,  Buffalo Arms etc.  EMF (no longer) Allen Arms (now Cimarron)
are importers.

Iron Frame 24"
Brass Frame 24"
Brass Military model (Civil War model)
Brass Carbine 20"
Trapper 18 1/2"
Kings Improved (Taylor's)
Engraved
and at least 1/2 Doz. Corparate Commenrative models

and the there are finish variations - In White , Blue , Colbalt Blue & Brown

[Driftwood Johnson]

Howdy

Agree, list them by Uberti, the manufacturer, not the different importers.

Uberti markets the blued frame as an 'iron frame'*, but it is in fact blued steel. 24 1/4" barrel, I believe it is available in 45 Colt only.

Mine is the case hardened steel frame, 24 1/4" barrel, 44-40 caliber.



According do Uberti's web page, this model is also available in 45 Colt.

*The first ~250-~400 Henrys manufactured by the New Haven Arms Company in 1862 did have iron frames. After that initial run of iron frames, all subsequent Henry rifles had brass (gunmetal) frames. I have searched for photographs of original iron frame Henrys, and the only examples I have come across were blued. I have not come across any photographs of original iron framed Henrys with a Case Hardened frame. Not saying they did not exist, I just have not found any.

[Henry4440]

I have searched for photographs of original iron frame Henrys, and the only examples I have come across were blued. I have not come across any photographs of original iron framed Henrys with a Case Hardened frame. Not saying they did not exist, I just have not found any.

In the new Les Quick book about the Henry Rifles, there is a Henry with a case-hardened iron frame.It's only one of just three known existing examples having case-hardened frames.It's serial number 2.

[Major 2]

Quite right...I have that photo and a close up of the reciever it is indeed CH

anonther was in the collection Mr Charles Dent.... Dents Department Stores...
I knew the gentleman 25 years ago, he was 80 then.
One of the finest private collections I have evey had the pleasure TO HANDLE !

He had a CO A. Texas Ranger Colt Walker in a presetation box      
in mint condition one of every comtractor CW era Springfield 
and a 59 Coffee Grinder Sharps carbine as like new issue
And the CH Henry, he also had new Henry (never sold or issued) that came from Winchester in 1930-1
as a gift !
I actually ordered my first Henry ( an Allen Arms for $375 ) having held that very gun ... it was worth $25,000 then
I'm guessing 150,000 + now

[Driftwood Johnson]

In the new Les Quick book about the Henry Rifles, there is a Henry with a case-hardened iron frame.It's only one of just three known existing examples having case-hardened frames.It's serial number 2.

Well, that's good news. Now I know that my case hardened Henry has historical precedent and is not made up.

Thanks

[Capt, Woodrow F. Call]

First put the heading

Uberti

Cimarron , Taylor's , Navy Arms,  Dixie Gun Works,  Buffalo Arms etc.  EMF (no longer) Allen Arms (now Cimarron)
are importers.

Iron Frame 24"
Brass Frame 24"
Brass Military model (Civil War model)
Brass Carbine 20"
Trapper 18 1/2"
Kings Improved (Taylor's)
Engraved
and at least 1/2 Doz. Corparate Commenrative models

and the there are finish variations - In White , Blue , Colbalt Blue & Brown

Howdy Major2

Isn't Brass Frame 24"  and Brass Military model (Civil War model) the same   That was i have been told here in Norway.
I have one Henry, but i'm not shure what kind of model it is, if there are differends between them. Do you have some pictures.

BR
Capt Call.

[Henry4440]

Howdy Major2

Isn't Brass Frame 24"  and Brass Military model (Civil War model) the same   That was i have been told here in Norway.
I have one Henry, but i'm not shure what kind of model it is, if there are differends between them. Do you have some pictures.

BR
Capt Call.

Capt.
I thing the only  difference is that the 1860 Henry Civilian 24" is without the Sling Swivel and the Civil War model is with a Sling Swivel.
See Cimarron:
http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/RepeatingRifles/Options/Opt-Henry.htm

[Major 2]

Hmmm... Dat right King o Sobby

I also think there is no trap door for the cleaning rod on some Civilian models..maybe all (mine didn't have the TD)

[Abilene]

The Military model Henry also has U.S. marked on the frame and an inspectors cartouche on the wood, in addition to the sling swivels.

[Peter M. Eick]

Looks like if I want to collect on of each of the main variations I better get after it.  There is a lot more replica variations then I expected!

[Pettifogger]

Uberti has also made them with 16 1/2" and 22 1/2" barrels.

[Henry4440]

In the new Les Quick book about the Henry Rifles, there is a Henry with a case-hardened iron frame.It's only one of just three known existing examples having case-hardened frames.It's serial number 2.

When you have some money left, this Henry was sold 2005 for $149,500.

[Long Johns Wolf]

FWIW: let's add the different calibers to the list
There is this rumor that Uberti made the first 20 or 25 in .44 Henry RF. Never saw one but would love to have one.
The regular produced calibers today for the rifle version are .44-40 and .45 Colt plus from time to time when the customers are crying out loud .44 Special.
I recall that the trapper version is/was available in .44-40 and .45 Colt cal.
And then there was (is?) the "One of One Thousand" series available as rifle and trapper. I recall they could be ordered from Uberti's German distributor HEGE as a combo with the same S/N. If memory serves they were only offered in .44-40.
Long Johns Wolf

[Capt, Woodrow F. Call]

Capt.
I thing the only  difference is that the 1860 Henry Civilian 24" is without the Sling Swivel and the Civil War model is with a Sling Swivel.
See Cimarron:
http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/RepeatingRifles/Options/Opt-Henry.htm

Thank you so much.
BR Capt: Call

[Major 2]

No rumor about it Wolf ..Navy Arms used to offer a limited number in 44 rimfire about 1980 or so.
But all they had at the time was 44/40 ..mine was ordered from NavyArms/Replica Arms but when it arrived navy had been subed  out to Allen Arms to get it to me ( it was marked Allen Arms - Santa Fe )

As you said only 44/40 WCF & 45 Colt and the odd 44spc. these days ( I know you have one )

[1988RRC]

did Uberti make a brass frame /chrome barrel (nickel??) version?

[Forty Rod]

Major and Abbey:  my "military model" from 1984 doesn't have a butt trap and has no U.S. stamp or cartouches.  It's a 24" brass frame .44-40 with swivels and blued steel hardware except for a CCH hammer and an "in the white" bolt.

[Tuolumne Lawman]

Some military models had a reinforced stock with two steel rods (visible as silver dots on the butt plate) for re-enacting and N-SSA use (or so they said).  I have only seen the rods on the Cimarron military model.

[Major 2]

Mine has the two silver dots ...there is no importer marks at all only Henry's Patent Oct 16 1860 in one line
on the top flat in front of the sight.
The serial # on the lower tang and Uberti's mark on the left flat.
It is a Military model with the trap door but no  "U.S." markings or inspector's cartouche.

My Iron Frame is marked Henry's Patent Oct 16 1860 top flat with a very small Taylor's & Co.Winchester VA.
on the side were the Brass Frame has Uberti's mark (L side flat near the receiver)
Serial in the same place as above.

Both are in Blue and have not had any marks removed...