Crossdraw Holster

[Strawberry Bill]

I have read a lot of posts around web that most people are moving away from crossdraw to  double rigs and was wondering if there is any chance that SASS will follow that trend and outlaw the crossdraw. I hunt a lot with 8 3/8 revolvers and am quite comfortable with the crossdraw but I would hate to spend few hundred dollars on a new holster to find when I show up at my first match that I have the wrong rig

[Handsome Dave]

I hope not, I use a double twist draw rig, I can draw cross draw but is a further reach than twisting out

[Doc Shapiro]

It's highly unlikely that crossdraw will be outlawed.

[Silver Creek Slim]

I agree with Doc.

Slim

[Daniel Nighteyes]

As my dear ol' daddy used to say, "The chances of that are Slim and None.  And Slim just left town."

[Will Blastem]

I'm still relatively new at CAS...2 years, but when I first started I bought a double strong side rig because of all the comments about crosdraws vs the 170* rule and the so-called "dance". I never felt comfortable, as a right hander, drawing with my left hand and "transfering" to my right even though I shoot in the "traditional form" but I was scared to death I would get myself into trouble with a crosdraw holster so I put up with it. After a year I decided I just didn't want to put up with the double strong side anymore, so here's what I did. I bought a crossdraw holster for my rig with only a 10* slant. I can mount it as far forward to my belly button as SASS rules allow and all I have to do is to stop with my left foot forward a little to draw and reholster and still stay well within the 170* plane...no dance, no headaches.

[Driftwood Johnson]

Howdy

It really burns my butt that cross draw holsters get such a bum rap in CAS. That's just plain wrong, somebody being intimidated from using a cross draw because a few poorly trained ROs keep saying that they are inherently more dangerous than straight draw holsters. Really burns my butt that anybody should feel so intimidated by such a load of bull hockey!

I have been using a cross draw holster on my weak side since day one in CAS. And I don't wear it way up front on my belly, I wear it all the way around on my left hip. I have no trouble at all unholstering my 7 1/2" Colt from that side without breaking the 180. I take a step and swivel my hips, to draw and return it to leather. You just have to pay attention and be conscious of your muzzle. This is not a big deal, despite what some straight draw shooters think. I wish some of these guys who have nothing better to do than criticize cross draw holsters would find something better to do, like inspect shooter's clothing to make sure they have the regulation number of stiches per inch! Next time one of these clowns remarks on your footwork, rather than your muzzle direction, ask him to show you exactly where in the shooter's handbook it says you have to do a stupid 'dance'.

[Major 2]

Roger that ! ..Driftwood

[Ten Wolves Fiveshooter]

Howdy

It really burns my butt that cross draw holsters get such a bum rap in CAS. That's just plain wrong, somebody being intimidated from using a cross draw because a few poorly trained ROs keep saying that they are inherently more dangerous than straight draw holsters. Really burns my butt that anybody should feel so intimidated by such a load of bull hockey!

I have been using a cross draw holster on my weak side since day one in CAS. And I don't wear it way up front on my belly, I wear it all the way around on my left hip. I have no trouble at all unholstering my 7 1/2" Colt from that side without breaking the 180. I take a step and swivel my hips, to draw and return it to leather. You just have to pay attention and be conscious of your muzzle. This is not a big deal, despite what some straight draw shooters think. I wish some of these guys who have nothing better to do than criticize cross draw holsters would find something better to do, like inspect shooter's clothing to make sure they have the regulation number of stiches per inch! Next time one of these clowns remarks on your footwork, rather than your muzzle direction, ask him to show you exactly where in the shooter's handbook it says you have to do a stupid 'dance'.

Howdy Driftwood 

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[Daniel Nighteyes]

I regularly shoot with five SASS champion shooters -- Lead Dispencer, Badlands Bud, Tex Fiddler, Frederick Jackson Turner and Lefty Longridge.  All of 'em use crossdraw holsters.

Yup, crossdraws get a bad rap that they don't deserve.

[Black Powder]

Next year's Hollywood blockbuster: "Cross Draw Dance" starring Patrick Swayze.

[Daniel Nighteyes]

Heh-heh-heh!  Betcha I can do a completely SASS-legal cross-draw without "dancing"!

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Yeah Danny Peepers;  Just do the TWIST!

[Daniel Nighteyes]

<GRIN!>  Don't even have ta do that! Squarely facing the target, I can execute a safe and SASS-legal cross draw without dancing, twisting, jigging, etc.  Many folks and many well-qualified RO's have seen me do it many times.

Thing is, I don't use a "crossdraw holster".  I use a reversed straight-hang holster.

[Fairshake]

We have an RO that has a pet peeve against cross-draw. He makes such a big thing out of it, that before ever match he looks at the shooters and calls them to the front. He then verses them about the "DANCE". When I first was putting my gear together I wanted to do off side cross-draw as the real guys did. This RO talked me out of it by telling me I would be Match DQ if I broke the plane. Scared me into the one on each side which I hate. Someone needs to soap box this to SASS HQ.

[Charlie Bowdre]

I think ya need to soap box the RO. It is one thing to be helpful and constructive but when it turns into a personal display I would pass on shooting with that person .
In fact I have  in similar circumstances , And as far as I'm concerned any Range which allows this type of instruction is not worth its salt..
We talk about the Cowboy Way 
My opinion only ...don't pistol whip me for it.

OK have at me...

[L.G.]

Yep, I started out my CAS shooting with one strong side, and one cross draw, shooting duelist.  I didn't mind twisting a little to prevent breaking the 170 rule.  Then came the day I pulled the same pistol twice.....click, click, click, click, click, Hey somethings wrong with my pistol!  Did the dead pistol hand off, and continued the stage.  At the  unloading table, problem was found, much to my embarasment!  So, I purchased a left strong side and shoot double duelist, which led to the next normal progression, Gunfighter!  So what if I'm not as fast as those two handed shooters, I love the feeling of filling my hands, and shooting the way of my hero's!

[Paladin UK]

Fer LG.......

I love the feeling of filling my hands, and shooting the way of my hero's!

   Amen ta the pard 

Paladin (What jest lurvs ta make smoke) UK

[Daniel Nighteyes]

We have an RO that has a pet peeve against cross-draw. He makes such a big thing out of it, that before ever match he looks at the shooters and calls them to the front. He then verses them about the "DANCE". When I first was putting my gear together I wanted to do off side cross-draw as the real guys did. This RO talked me out of it by telling me I would be Match DQ if I broke the plane. Scared me into the one on each side which I hate. Someone needs to soap box this to SASS HQ.

He would probably have a pure-dee conniption when he saw that I wear both pistols butt-forward and do the reverse draw with either hand or both hands!!!!

Thing is, the rules and requirements are not open to personal interpretation, personal preference or personal peeve.  Requiring all cross-draw shooters to "do the dance" is neither a rule nor a requirement, but a personal interpretation/preference/peeve.  The applicable rule/requirement is "thou shalt not break the 170".  Plenty of shooters use a cross-draw holster without doing the dance, and still don't break the 170 any more than anyone using a "regular" draw.


IMO,if the R.O. in question insists on this course of action, it should be taken up with the MD (in a kind and respectful yet assertive way, naturally).
Period.  Paragraph.  End of story.

[Buffalow Red]

i just went through ro training 1 & 2 and doing  the dance was part of the subject matter
its in the training