Sure is quiet around here.

Joyce (AnnieLee) · April 03, 2005, 10:38:37 AM

Quote from: Trinity on April 03, 2005, 10:28:42 AM
How does one pronounce 'Hoedy' ?

"Ho-dee".

AnnieLee

Trinity · April 03, 2005, 10:42:18 AM

Sometimes the obvious escapes me.
... I would have pronounced it Herdy.

Delmonico · April 03, 2005, 10:43:24 AM

Hoe-dee

Hey I found a German sayin' I'm gonna post later, but you and Annie and any one else has to tell me what it means.

Forty Rod · April 03, 2005, 11:33:19 AM

(Buncha dang fools don't even recognize a typicalgraphic error when they sees it. Cheez Louise.

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Joyce (AnnieLee) · April 03, 2005, 12:06:45 PM

Quote from: Trinity on April 03, 2005, 10:42:18 AM
Sometimes the obvious escapes me.
... I would have pronounced it Herdy.

Herdy would have been the German pronounciation. That weird thing with the umlats. No, I don't know how to make them, they're the pair of dots over a vowel.

AnnieLee

Trinity · April 03, 2005, 12:19:47 PM

Hödy!

I'll never be abole to say howdy again!

Forty Rod · April 03, 2005, 12:48:49 PM

And yet people say I'M strange.

Joyce (AnnieLee) · April 03, 2005, 06:17:40 PM

Well.... there's a reason for that, Forty!

(you are.)

Hödy!

AnnieLee (still can't make the double dots, but can copy and paste)

Trinity · April 03, 2005, 09:02:52 PM

How to type dots...

Since most True Type fonts are meant for use the world over, you can find almost any character in the character map (Somewhere in the accessories when you hit the start button) Most True Type fonts have the foreign characters accessible by special codes always preceded by a press and hold of the ALT button. In the character map you will find the code number. The more common fonts (Arial for example) will have more characters. You will have little trouble finding western European characters in most fonts.

Sooooo... if you are are in need of a lower case "O" with Umlaut (two dots) then find it on the list, note the number and key the code. You could copy and past too, if you wanted to.

<<In my best "teacher-ese" :>>

Please note the only applicable letters unique to German and their non-umlaut equivalant in parentheses:

Ä,ä (Ae, ae)
Ö,ö (Oe, oe)
Ü,ü (Ue, ue)
ß (ss) This letter is being phased out and may soon be a relic!

Contrary to what many people think... just because it has two dots over it doesn't mean it's German. Not all letters get two dots and the two dots can make an entirely different word. For example:

Schon = already
Schön = pretty

Umlauts can also indicate quantity:

Ganz = Goose
Gänze = Geese

Of course, you see in the last English example we already had a vowel change from goose to geese. That is for an different course, but not too far off course.

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Class dismissed for today. This could go on, you know!

Joyce (AnnieLee) · April 03, 2005, 09:38:07 PM

Be careful, Trinity, or folks will start to think you are far smarter than the character you portray!

AnnieLee, who once lived on Hauberißerstraße.

Delmonico · April 03, 2005, 11:32:12 PM

I found this last night while reading. It dates to the 16th-17th century and deals with firearms.

"Alle lunst ist umsunst ween ein Engel das Zündloch brunzt!"

That you Trinity and Annie for the cut and paste idea, even I can do that.

Don't forget jandernice. Tain't German, so don't event try to pronounch that way. English will also mess it up.

Joyce (AnnieLee) · April 04, 2005, 05:05:41 AM

Quote from: Delmonico on April 03, 2005, 11:32:12 PM
I found this last night while reading. It dates to the 16th-17th century and deals with firearms.

"Alle lunst ist umsunst ween ein Engel das Zündloch brunzt!"

That you Trinity and Annie for the cut and paste idea, even I can do that.

Don't forget jandernice. Tain't German, so don't event try to pronounch that way. English will also mess it up.

Beats me, Del, you yuppy cowboy!

I tried running a translator on it and I don't know what angels have to do with ignition holes.

AnnieLee

Delmonico · April 04, 2005, 10:06:42 AM

Think match-lock firearms and a lack of knowledge as to how guns work. Like a lot of folks today.

Joyce (AnnieLee) · April 04, 2005, 11:38:30 AM

"All is lost when an angel passes wind in the ignition hole."

AnnieLee

Silver Creek Slim · April 04, 2005, 02:43:21 PM

It is a bit quiet since I am not getting email notifications.

Slim

Joyce (AnnieLee) · April 04, 2005, 03:27:21 PM

I've been quiet because I am avoiding a PITA by being really busy and telling her I am too swamped to talk to her! Her being a PITA has greatly increased my "productivity," just not in her area.

AnnieLee

Trinity · April 04, 2005, 07:13:38 PM

Quote from: Delmonico on April 03, 2005, 11:32:12 PM
I found this last night while reading. It dates to the 16th-17th century and deals with firearms.

"Alle lunst ist umsunst ween ein Engel das Zündloch brunzt!"

That you Trinity and Annie for the cut and paste idea, even I can do that.

Don't forget jandernice. Tain't German, so don't event try to pronounch that way. English will also mess it up.

Ok Del, I had to do some looking because it looks like you've got yourself some Austrian or southern German slang here. My interpretation is:

"A fuse is for nothing when an angel pisses in the fire hole"

Delmonico · April 04, 2005, 10:47:44 PM

My book says the saying was: "All your skill is to no avail if an Angel urinates in your toutch hole."

Early matchlocks often didn't have a cover over the pan and touch hole, anyrain would imeditly ruin the priming charge.

Now using the same thinking can you tell me why the thought rifled barrels were more accurate than smoothbores?

ether-nith-ee a Czech sausage made out of the meat on the head of a hog and heart, liver and bread, stuffed in a casing.

Trinity · April 05, 2005, 10:09:21 AM

Quote from: Delmonico on April 04, 2005, 10:47:44 PM
My book says the saying was: "All your skill is to no avail if an Angel urinates in your toutch hole."

I am a very literal person... that's why I never studied more and went into translation. Translation requires a bit of artful thinking to match the destination language. No language translates into another word for word.

Heck, if this were to be very literally translated, it would read something like: "A fuse is free if an angel in the ignition hole pisses!"

I said:

Quote"A fuse is for nothing when an angel pisses in the fire hole"

I couldn't find your word "lunst". Nowhere. Now, I checked several internet resourses and some books that I have here which, of course still does not mean the word does not exist. What I did find was the word Lunte, which is: Fuse. Either "Lunst" was a misspelling, a dialectual thing or an age thing (You did say 16th-17th century and there has been much change in the German language since then).

The other word that gave me difficulty was "brunzt" which is the third person of brunzen which I learned to be Austrian slang for to piss and it was specified as "vulgar". That's why I decided not to take the sissy route and say "urinate"

But I also found the word on some swabian (southern Germans) youths websites.

As for "fire hole"... well I just guessed since I don't know the correct terminology.

I like Annie's definition better, though:

Quote"All is lost when an angel passes wind in the ignition hole."

How true!!

Silver Creek Slim · April 05, 2005, 10:43:43 AM

I took two semesters of German (Hochdeutsch) in college. Don't ask me to translate without the internet. Anyway, I was watching "The Raiders of the Lost Ark". In one scene, Indy was dressed as a German soldier and was acting as if sleeping. A German soldier came up to him and asked him why he was sleeping, in German. He didn't speak Hochdeutsch because it wasn't what I was taught but it was close enough that I could understand it. I assume it was Plattdeutsch.

Slim