Looking for a long range gun.

[Ranch 13]

  Lonestars basic roller is 1900 and change, your fowler is 2k. Guess I'm not following the highpriced american stuff.

Otter's right, the sights standard on those Italians aren't much to get excitied about and you will end up spending for sights again.

Might be as you are a gun builder, you could get ahold of one of Doc Carlsons (Upper Missouri Trading co ) rolling block actions, a #3 winchester tapered green mt barrel and build your own. You've got the wood available so thats not a problem. If you're not set up to thread the barrel , once you have that action smoothed and ready you can contact Douglas barrels and they'll install and chamber one of their barrels for you , then all you need to do is stock the thing and put some sights on it.
If you don't want to got the UMTCo action best bet would be to pick up a roller off of one of the auction sites and go from there for cheap.
Unless you're dead set on a roller, CSharps 1875 with deluxe sights is 1680+fet and shipping so, for about 1800 you'ld be into a rifle that won't need to change sights  at the same price as an Italian built roller.

[Bristow Kid]

Well I been quiet on this topic but I think I will add my $.02.  I started shooting long range about 2 years ago.  I started cheap.  I bought a used Rolling BLock made by Pedersoli and smokeless ammo from Cabelas.  The rifle came with Pedersoli Long range sites.  Gun & sites $700 Thanks Ol' Gabe ammo from Cabelas $300 started for a grand.  I still use that same rifle and am now loading the  good black smokey stuff.  But anyway the point is you can find a good used gun and see if you even like the sport instead of droping 2 to 3 grand and find you dont like it.  Just my $.02 worth.

[French Jack]

I'm currently in the process of building another roller.  The action is from a Swedish roller purchased from Buffalo Arms.  It is a nice action needing only a new barrel- price: $750 delivered.  Add a Green Mtn tapered octagon for $260, a set of Lee Shaver sights, and did the work to rebarrel and install the sights.  The buttstock was useable with a refinish job and a lace on comb from Cabela's, will have to make a forearm.  I will still be below the price for a Pedersoli.   

[Pitspitr]

Bristow's right. I bought my original RB NYS musket for $500. It is VG and only needs a sling.

And my Pedersoli Sharps will shoot with anybody's now that it has a good sighting system on it.

[Ranch 13]

Pitspitr are you going to be at the Midwest Nationals in Alliance the 2-4 of May?

[shieldsmt]

Look in Classifieds for new posting, a Rolling Block Rifle, good basis for a custom project.  Regards, Shieldsmt

[Ranch 13]

 Just add a soule sight and a globe to that rifle , load some ammo and head to the shoots. That's a heck of a deal for someone looking to get into a roller on the cheap.

[Pitspitr]

Pitspitr are you going to be at the Midwest Nationals in Alliance the 2-4 of May?

Doesn't look like I'll be able to. My daughter has conference track (high school. I drive bus) on the 2nd and my son has conference track (College) at Gunnison CO on the 4th.

Where are you from?

[bear tooth billy]

I started with a Pedersoli 45/70 and after developing a load it shot very well, I strongly agree with the others on sights. $480 for a rear sight seems absurd but my experince has been that the pedersoli sight is not good enough for longe range. I am in Wheatland just up the road from you. I will give you loading specs at ackley. My first trip there was extremely worthwhile, I was struggling big time with my load but on the second day Del gave 25 rounds of his loads to try. WOW 17 buffs were down and I was hooked, I've never forgot the generosity and sharing of knowledge. Bring your notepad and wander around and ask  lots of questions see you there

      BTB

[Ranch 13]

Pitspitr I'm at Fort Laramie.

[Pitspitr]

Pitspitr I'm at Fort Laramie.

Sam?

[Ranch 13]

Nope not Sam Walker, Don McDowell up north by Hell's Gap.

[Pitspitr]

It's amazing how small the world is sometimes. We live in different states and have never met, yet we have a mutual aquaintance.
I doubt that anyone who's ever met Sam would forget him.

[Ranch 13]

  Yup that's quite a cast of characters they have down there at the fort now.

:)Keep on offering to bring enough ammo we could all twist the handle a few times on their Gataling gun,  but don't ever seem to get any closer to get to play with the thing for an hour or so.

[Roosterman]

Well, I finally made a decision and a purchase. It's not an Italian gun , but I'm hoping it will do. Do you guys think this will get me by?
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Gunmaker/Lone%20Star%20Rolling%20Block/

[French Jack]

Just send that Lone Star on down to me.  I'll wring it out and give you a review on its performance. 

BEAUTIFUL!!!! Besides that, it's plumb purty!

[Otter]

Good looking rifle, Roosterman. I think that'll lead you down the road to another, then another & etc. You do need to give some details, though, in addition to maker. 45-70? Looks like a 34" half and half barrel? Have fun (I know you will) . . .

[Roosterman]

32" barrel chambered in 45-90. weighs 11  1/2 lbs with the sights.  Supposedly Serial #1 by the way, made in something like '92 or '93. Who can tell me something about the sights? they are "F. J.Zika #8 long-range rear sight, and a Kyler spirit level, windage adjustable front sight". Being new to all this I wouldn't know if these are good or crapola.....
I havn't got it yet, probably be better than a week before I get it in my grubby little hands.

[French Jack]

The sights are made by members and competitors that are members of the ASSRA.  Both are well known in the Scheutzen circle for the quality of their sights and other work.

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Roosterman;  You were jes stringin us along!  You had this beauty in mind from the start!