USFA '75 Remington Update

[Fox Creek Kid]

I spoke w/ Mark Roberts at USFA today & here is what he told me to share. They are doing the CNC programs now and will have demos at the SHOT Show. The guns will be available this year!!! The first ones will be .45 Colt & 44-40 with the longer barrel and shorter barrels possibly later on. He said they reverse engineered an original down to the screw threads!!!    Cost? He ESTIMATED right in there with the Pre War SAA, circa. $1300.00. That is an ESTIMATE people, not a binding contract!!    I can hardly wait!! As a BONUS he told me that these guns will be marked E. Remington & Sons as USFA has entered into a contract with Remington!!  SWEET!!! Alright, everybody wipe the drool off their keyboards!! 

[sundance44`s]

Did he mention the 1858 ??

[Marshal Will Wingam]

This is great. Do you know if they are going to offer an 1890 version?

[Fox Creek Kid]

Did he mention the 1858 ??

Sorry. forgot to write that I asked about the '58 model as well & he said they are working on them right along with the '75. Start saving your pennies, you yahoos!  I didn't ask about any hope for a '90 Model as no use to look a gift horse in the mouth. 

[Forty Rod]

That may be the latest news but it's old news...a couple of weeks at least.

[Barbarosa]

No news... would be good news..!     

[Fox Creek Kid]

I wonder what parts will be imported from Russia like their Remington shotguns?

The gun is being made by USFA and not Remington. Remington is only lending its name for authenticity.  The gun is being made in America by American workers. Get your facts straight.

Sorry, but I can't give in to corporate monapolies(sic)...

Cerberus bought Remington because no one else wanted it. Remington has lost money six years in a row. Any other "facts" I can straighten out? 

[North Bender]

Tough crowd Fox Creek Kid!  Everybody has a spin around here.

Thanks for the news.

[Marshal Will Wingam]

Sorry. forgot to write that I asked about the '58 model as well & he said they are working on them right along with the '75. Start saving your pennies, you yahoos!  I didn't ask about any hope for a '90 Model as no use to look a gift horse in the mouth. 

Well, this saves me money. I already have to get at least one NMA and one 1875. If they offered an 1890, I'd have to fork over 50% more.

[Doc Sunrise]

Fox Creek Kid,

Sounds great.  I am definitely going to order them with USFA making them.  Great American Quality coming out of USFA.

[sundance44`s]

I guess we won`t know untill we get our hot hands on the 1858 which conversion cylinder will fit it ...Uberti or Pietta ..maybe neither ...but if it`s made to Remmie original specs . My Pietta  Kirst conversion cylinder fits my Original ....I can live without the 75`s for a while as long as the USAF will take a conversion cylinder ...Man I`m getting excited all over again ...seems like we`ve been waiting a long time for this to happen ..Sure hope they can crank them out fast when they hit the market . 

[Cal Fornia]

Sundance44, I also find myself tweaked by the idea of a USFA '58 Conversion, just as much as I am by the 1875 being "recreated" by an American company, using American materials and labor, to make a high-quality firearm.  I have no problem being the proud "new" owner of a barely used Uberti Remington 1890, but I'd trade it in a heartbeat, if it meant I could own a USFA Remington 1875 (or '58 conversion).  I do hope they can crank 'em out fast, both '58 and '75... so long as they can keep the quality up with the rest of their offerings!  Would be nice if they offered the option of a properly dimensioned conversion kit, along with the '58, so people had the option of both cartridge and C&B, without having to go elsewhere.

I'd really like a recreation of the Remmie Clint Eastwood used in Pale Rider, with those three extra spare cylinders (though I have a fondness for 5.5 inch barrels)....


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[Fox Creek Kid]

Secretly, I am hoping that down the road USFA will offer an authentic '58 "thin plate" conversion!   

[ColonelFlashman]

Come on my fellow Remington enthusiasts, this is spectacular news.
I've a letter somewhere here from the Pres. of USFA stating what the different styles of finishes & metal's that will be available for the '75 Army.
But @ the time of the letter the N.M.A. will take back seat till everything is up & running for the '75 Army.
Bloody hell, isn't it marvelous to have an actual U.S. manufactured Remington Single Action Revolver again.
Now, Remington Never called their Army/Navy revolvers a '58 anything.
Are we going to keep perpetuating the Italian manufacturers mistake & use of an erroneous designation?
Remington referred to their large frame Model Revolvers as;
The Beals Army/Navy (1st model) or
The 1861 Army/Navy (1st* Model) or
The Improved or New Model Army/Navy (2nd model)
The 1875 Army (3rd model)
The 1888 Army (transitional 3rd* model)
The 1890 Army (improved 3rd** model)

Cheers
Flashy

[Old Top]

Colonel Flashman,

Excuse my ignorance but what is the 1888 model that you refer too, I am familure with the 75's and the 90's but not the 88.

Old Top

[ColonelFlashman]

 In March 1888, E. Remington & Sons was acquired by Marcellus Hartley and partners.  E. Remington & Sons was reorganized, and the new company was named the Remington Arms Company.
The new owners continued to improve/upgrade the internals & some of the exterals of the Model '75 Army that was started before they purcased the Co. As I recollect for the externals, the hammer, sight, sight ramp, trigger & few other pieces were slightly modified, as part of streamlining the manufacturing process. But you really have to have the '75 & the '88 side-by-side to really see any difference.
This information came to light about 10-15 years ago as I recall, as one of the Collectors or other Publications printed an article.
Either Men-@-Arms or the Remington Collectors Association or ?, I just do not remember which @ present.

[Fox Creek Kid]

Here's a real '88:   http://www.ocyoung.com/Remingtons.htm

[ColonelFlashman]

That's interesting, because the majority of the one's I've seen, which is only a handfull, still had the Sail, very interesting.

[sundance44`s]

Remington never called the 1858 an 1858 ? My Original Remmie has a stamp on the barrel with the New York address it`s stamped Sept. 14 1858 ........I always thought it was called an 1858 untill they came out with the 1875 .......wouldn`t be the first time I was wrong though ......like said ya can`t beleive everything ya read .
Recond what I`d really like to know is if USFA will be stamping a date on the barres of the 1858 ....recond we`ll know when they are at the Shot Show in a few weeks ...Anyone here going ?

[Books OToole]

If I recall correctly, the 1858 date is a patent date.  The model did not go into production, until 1859 or 60.

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