James Younger Remington?

[Barbarosa]

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[Deadeye Don]

Interesting, but for 10K I would want to have a tad more confirmation that it belonged to Mr. Younger.  The high price on the gun is most certainly assuming it belonged to him even though the description hedges quite a bit.  Buyer beware.   Thanks for posting it. 

[Steel Horse Bailey]

I agree with DD.  10 K is WAY too much without solid proof, even as nice as it seems to be - 'tho it IS an old version and probably much more scarce than others.

[St. George]

Indeed.

You can engrave anything and file all the notches you want - and age it all - and that was most certainly done in bygone years.

Asking 'that' kind of money would meant that there was serious research devoted to the provenance.

Apparently - asking the price doesn't include that effort from the dealer.

Were it 'real' - I think it'd be deep in a collection and featured in references.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

[Hoof Hearted]

I handled that pistol yesterday at The Dallas Arms Collector show and had quite a nice talk with the owner. He agrees that he has no firsthand provenance but he has accumulated some third hand and has spoken with a couple of historians. It will always be a long shot..........but it fits the period and was bought with some other artifacts from an area where the youngers visted.

If anyone wants an "eyeball" recollection of the pistol let me know~!

[Dusty Morningwood]

Just like "George Washington Slept Here!!" 

[Steel Horse Bailey]

Just like "George Washington Slept Here!!" 

If George Washington slept in as many places as they claim he did, it's no wonder he's the Father of our Country!   

[Wolfgang]

I handled that pistol yesterday at The Dallas Arms Collector show and had quite a nice talk with the owner. He agrees that he has no firsthand provenance but he has accumulated some third hand and has spoken with a couple of historians. It will always be a long shot..........but it fits the period and was bought with some other artifacts from an area where the youngers visted.

If anyone wants an "eyeball" recollection of the pistol let me know~!

Curious, . . what is the name like ? . . . I noted that the seller didn't show it, and mentioned that he wasn't showing it.  Just seems strange that he wasn't showing the thing that makes it ( ? ) more expensive that if it was just an old pistol.  Just curious about that.

[Hoof Hearted]

OK here goes:

The name was on the left grip panel. It was deeply "scratched" into the grip. I don't think it would have been carved in this small of a space and was probably something that had been scratched deeper and deeper, again and again. it and the kill notches had a lot of wear. Now I know we all think that something like this could be done and "aged" but I have tried to age things and short of many, many hours of rubbing this look would not be easy to fake. I'm not saying this was James Younger's pistol I AM sayimg there was a lot of real wear after the name was sctached into the grip.

The pistol in question is an Old Model Army. It had conversion numbers in the right places but they are the large type normally associated with Armory or Gunsmith conversions. The recoil shield was divetailed in place, but the screw was missing so it was flopping around. The face of the shield had horizontal deep scratches all over it (not sure why). The back of the cylinder had been cut off in normal fashion and a new piece soldered on, but the new piece was slightly larger in diameter than the old cylinder. The bolt did not engage and there was a pretty good silver (new) wear mark from spinning the cylinder on the flopping bolt. The front sight was a dovtailed, handmade, affair with a dovetail that was only about 3/16ths wide and a square tapered post for a sight. The rammer catch was roughlt filed off of the barrel and the round part of the rammer was also cut off at the beginning of the web at a 45 degree angle. All in all the pistol had seen a lot of period "gunsmith" repair and alteration.

[Steel Horse Bailey]

I'll say this:

Price and former ownership? aside, it sounds like a heck of a gun.  Don't ya wish it could talk?

[Wolfgang]

Hoof Hearted, . . . Thanks for the info.  I was real curious about the "signiature" and notches.  Intersting about the condition as well.   Good shootin', . . . . . 

[Skinny Preacher 66418]

How does the rammer lock in the up position?