Question on Remmington jointed cylinder pin.

River City John · June 24, 2007, 12:51:43 PM

I notice a pard is selling three Remington jointed cylinder pins in the Cas City Classifieds.

What is the purpose/advantage of a jointed pin? Was this something done back in the day?
RCJ

Silver Creek Slim · June 24, 2007, 01:20:22 PM

I asked a similar question the other day on another forum. Below is the reply I got from a nice pard.

Quote from: Marshal Will Wingam on June 23, 2007, 10:56:15 AM
I forgot to mention, these things are for the shortened pistols. When you cut one down to less than 5 1/2 " you have to remove the loading lever catch to get the cylinder out. This makes it easy to switch the cylinders in them.

I hope it is alright to quote ya, Marshal Will.

Slim

Flint · June 24, 2007, 02:37:56 PM

The 5-1/2 inch Remingtons have their loading lever stud/catch located so close, due to the short barrel, that the cylinder pin cannot be totally withdrawn without removing the stud. The catch is not crimped into its dovetail as tightly as the longer barreled guns for that reason, and occasionally they will drop out. With the jointed pin you can remove the pin without removing the catch, so the catch can be locktited or staked more tightly in place.

Halfway Creek Charlie · June 24, 2007, 02:58:09 PM

I knew I should have copyrighted that jointed pin.....LOL
It's OK Warbucks16 Go for it.

River City John · June 24, 2007, 04:11:10 PM

Thanks for responses.

Marshal Will Wingam · June 24, 2007, 05:45:04 PM

Quote from: Silver Creek Slim on June 24, 2007, 01:20:22 PMI hope it is alright to quote ya, Marshal Will.

No problem, pard.

Doggone, Charlie, you should be making these things. As I recall, you have hinged them sideways as well as down. It's a good idea.

Halfway Creek Charlie · June 24, 2007, 10:32:38 PM

I believe Warbucks got the one he used as a prototype in a pistol he bought from me. No problem.

Yep my advanced design is a sideways hinged pin and one of Kirst Ejector/Pin Combo.

Marshal Will Wingam · June 24, 2007, 11:08:28 PM

Quote from: Halfway Creek Charlie on June 24, 2007, 10:32:38 PMYep my advanced design is a sideways hinged pin and one of Kirst Ejector/Pin Combo.

You have a photo? That sounds interesting.

Halfway Creek Charlie · June 24, 2007, 11:22:54 PM

I'll have to look thru my photos. That's how i decided to joint them sideways , inorder NOT to cut the ejector Housing down to the joint dimension. That Joint dimension back from the Wing is critical so the cylinder doesn't bounce around or wobble.

warbucks16 · June 25, 2007, 08:07:01 AM

Halfway Creek Charlie:

Sorry did not mean to step on anyones toes. I was having trouble with the pin in my Euroarms Gunslinger, the cylinder would over rotate occasionally and a friend of mine who is a part time gunsmith and machinist thought that this design would work a little better and stop the over rotation. He took two pins and milled both ends and connected them with a small roll pin which eliminated having to have a seperate link in the middle. Had him make four and they seem to work great. Only needed two so thought someone with a shorther barrel Remmy might be interested in one. Again I apologize if I stepped on anyones toes, I sure did not mean to.

Regards,

Warbucks16

Halfway Creek Charlie · June 25, 2007, 08:22:09 AM

No problem,

Had I had a mill I would have done the same. In fact my third midel will be of that construction.

Go for it! You have my blessings.

Did that stop the over- rotation?

I think that has to do with the length of the bolt legs and possibly the hand.

I didn't have the OR problem with the gun, but I didn't fan or cock it fast.

warbucks16 · June 25, 2007, 10:21:19 AM

Yes. According to my gunsmith, the holes in the link on the old pin had become oval or elongated which apparently was causing it to move and allow the over rotation.

The new pin has corrected that for now, but I will have to do some more serious shooting to see if it continues to work properly.

Regards,

Warbucks16