squezz my dumbness, but?

[HANCOCK]

I don't own a Henry, but I dearly admire them.
I am tired of  waiting for the promised Richards type II , so am thinking of going a different route. I am considering getting R&D drop in cyls for my 1860's, This of course would mean shooting 45LC , or Schofields.
My question is , if I were to load either of these with .454 round balls,do you think that such a cartridge would cycle through a Uberti Henry?? or Taylor's Transitional in 45 LC of course??

Please be gentle.
HANCOCK

[Tuolumne Lawman]

Howdy,

Not dumb question at all.  It would not be a good idea, as the roundball would be stting on the primer in front.  That's why the bullets have a flat metplate (flat nose).  Also, the case would have to be full of BP to keep the ball from being pushed into the case mouth. 

[Dusty Morningwood]

Just load separate ammo for the pistols.

[Flint]

The Henry, 66 and 73 use the cartridge in the carrier as a stop for the rounds in the magazine.  Therefore, the overall length of the casrtridges must be "by the book", unless you modify the lifter to hold the nose of the shorter cartridge to the front, where the "factory" length would have placed it.

A overly long cartridge will protrude into the magazine and jam the lifter, a short cartridge will allow the cartridge ahead of it to protrude it's rim and base into the carrier and prevent it from lifting.

A 44-40, with the case crimped into the crimping groove of the (44-40 200gr) bullet is a perfect fit.  A 45Colt has to be seated to a length, probably given in the loading manual, but check it for smooth cycling before committing to a CAS match.

[Marshal Will Wingam]

The Henry, 66 and 73 use the cartridge in the carrier as a stop for the rounds in the magazine.  Therefore, the overall length of the casrtridges must be "by the book", unless you modify the lifter to hold the nose of the shorter cartridge to the front, where the "factory" length would have placed it.

A overly long cartridge will protrude into the magazine and jam the lifter, a short cartridge will allow the cartridge ahead of it to protrude it's rim and base into the carrier and prevent it from lifting.

A 44-40, with the case crimped into the crimping groove of the (44-40 200gr) bullet is a perfect fit.  A 45Colt has to be seated to a length, probably given in the loading manual, but check it for smooth cycling before committing to a CAS match.

I'm not trying to start anything here, but are you sure this is the case? Both my '73's feed both .357 and .38spl equally well. Another shooting buddy does the same with his '73 long rifle. My cousin is shooting both .45lc and .45 Schofield in his '73. All of our rifles work flawlessly. I do understand that the Cowboy 45 needs modification to work, but it's a good 3/8" shorter than a .45 lc. I know you can't get a '66 in 38/357, it has to be .38 spl only. Perhaps the '66 and Henry are different. I've been thinking of a Henry and this is a consideration.

[will52100]

Bullet shape also has a little to do with it, and for some reasons some toggle links rifles feed better than others.  I have a henry in 45 colt and it feeds everything I load through it with no problems.  The one time I had it tie up was with factory Winchester ammo and I filled the mag up and recoil shoved one of the bullets deep in the case.  That brought things to a halt quick and required disasembly to correct.  A budy of mine sometimes has problems cycling his reloads in his 73, but I think that is more due to the dial calipers he uses to measure lenth are off a bit.  All toggle link and lifter block rifles are criticle of overall length, wheather Henry, 66, 73, or 76.  Some are a little more criticle than others.

[litl rooster]

Bullet shape also has a little to do with it, and for some reasons some toggle links rifles feed better than others.  I have a henry in 45 colt and it feeds everything I load through it with no problems.  The one time I had it tie up was with factory Winchester ammo and I filled the mag up and recoil shoved one of the bullets deep in the case.  That brought things to a halt quick and required disasembly to correct.  A budy of mine sometimes has problems cycling his reloads in his 73, but I think that is more due to the dial calipers he uses to measure lenth are off a bit.  All toggle link and lifter block rifles are criticle of overall length, wheather Henry, 66, 73, or 76.  Some are a little more criticle than others.

    I would avoid the roundball and go directly (without sounding like a paid endorsement) to the Big Lube bullet.  Using a roundball be it right or wrong will add more time to your loading sessions. The Big Lube bullet will allow you to have the proper lube needed to shoot an entire match in pistols and rifle.   You can use smokeless and a bullet designed for that also, but from a Henry's it should belch fire and smoke.