1858 remington cylinder shortage?

[rickk]

Is there currently an 1858 Uberti Remington cylinder shortage in the world?

Dixie, Taylors both out of stock... I have had one on order from Taylors for 3 months. Dixie has no idea when they will have some either. VTI appears to still have some, at $80 each ! Does anyone know of a place that actually has them in stock for a more correct price?

[Deadeye Don]

Law of supply and demand.  Is $80 that bad?

[rickk]

Just feel funny about paying 25 bucks more for something that what should be the going price, just cuz they got me over a barrel.

I already have a couple, so I'm not desparate yet. I'm just suprised that Uberti appears to not be shipping any into the USA, and hasn't for several months. Might be due to the new forged frame revolver release... popular gun... Probably gobbling up their entire cylinder production.

Maybe I'll just buy another entire 1858 :-)

[Deadeye Don]

Well actually it is just not the cylinders Uberti is slow to ship these days.  Both Taylors an Cimarron have hundreds (thousands) of backorders on alot of Uberti products.  In addition, Armi sport was caught with their pants down regarding Spencers which may be shipped at the end of May finally.   These days...it is a waiting game.   The US distributors are waiting for the products to be made and we are waiting for the distributors to ship them to us.   Deadeye.

[willyboy]

I get mine from Cabelas,ship quick ,too.One of the advantages of owning a Pietta,I guess.

[Flint]

Last I saw, VTI wanted $80 for the Charcoal blue, but the standard blue was $75.  Been that price for quite some time...  Of course the Euro keeps gaining on the Dollar, so everything imported keeps going up.

[The Avocado Kid]

Pietta cylinders are $39 from Cabella's and the revolvers are $199.99 you are paying for the Uberti name, most of the time its worth it,I say most of the time. Well,maybe its time you start thinking about some R&D conversion cylinders? Dusty.

[rickk]

I think about conversion cylinders all the time, and keep checking ebay for the original cylinders that came ot of the gun to put the conversion in 

Saw a loading lever on there yesterday... no cylinder though

[Tuolumne Lawman]

Well actually it is just not the cylinders Uberti is slow to ship these days.  Both Taylors an Cimarron have hundreds (thousands) of backorders on alot of Uberti products.  In addition, Armi sport was caught with their pants down regarding Spencers which may be shipped at the end of May finally.   These days...it is a waiting game.   The US distributors are waiting for the products to be made and we are waiting for the distributors to ship them to us.   Deadeye.

Don is very right.  ALL of the importers are screaming for inventory.  9 times out of ten, when they send me something to do an article on in the Chronicle, they sell out the fiirst shipment immediately (usually before the article is published) and wait months or even a year for another shipment.  Demand for all clones outstrips supply.  The importers like Cimarron, Taylor's, EMF, and Dixie get stuck in the middle.  They relay the promises made to them by the factory, then when the factory doesn't deliver, the importer is the one that catches hell!

I think that the Italians are doing two things.  One they are capitalizing on the EU market more, and two, like OPEC, they raise prices and decrease production below demand levels to keep the price even higher.  It is getting worse instead of better.  Marlin and Ruger should capitalize on this and maybe step up production and offer more variety.

[Halfway Creek Charlie]

I heard a rumor last year or so that Remington was going to offer their own NMA's. I know they's be expensive(like the S & W Schofields) but at least they'd be made here.

[Tuolumne Lawman]

I was just talking to Walt Kirst.  He said he called Lisa at VTI and even they are out of both Pietta and Uberti spare cylinders now, and don't know when any are coming in!  Ugh!!!!!

[Marshal Will Wingam]

I was just talking to Walt Kirst.  He said he called Lisa at VTI and even they are out of both Pietta and Uberti spare cylinders now, and don't know when any are coming in!  Ugh!!!!!

Time to buy one or two of his cylinders, then. 

[Wolfgang]

I just checked Cabelas and they have Pietta cylinders in stock for $39.99.   I bought several when they were $ 28.  Glad I did.  Good shootin', . . . . 

[rickk]

My cylinder order from Taylors is still on back order.

I placed an order with Dixie, who was out of stock and back ordering as of Sunday as well. I figured one or the other would get some first.

I just got a notice that the one from Dixie is on it's way, and their web site no longer indicates it is a backordered item.

So, if anyone needs one, jump on it !

[Halfway Creek Charlie]

Hint. I faced off a Pietta Kirst Cylinder to fit my Uberti Carbine and my Euroarms Remy's and it worked great oin all. I took off .018 off the length of the cylinder(to match the Uberti Cylinder Length) and it aligned and indexed like it was made for all 5 guns.

Now I have a Pietta Remy of 2002 mfg. and it's cylinders(two) work in my original Remy's. Not in my Origianl Civlian Transition NMA though as the Old Model army bbl breech sticks in past the cylinder pin housing a couple threads, not like the later NMA's. Hey I wonder if the fouling will be less?? Have to shoot her and find out.

Measure the Pietta and the Uberti Cylinders and you might be able to cut the Pietta's down to match the Uberti cylinder length and They'll work in the Uberti's. Might be worth a shot if the Uberti cylinders are going to be backordered. I'd do the measuring of someone's Pietta cylinder before I rushed out and bought one though.

[rickk]

When one's tools consist primarily of a bench grinder and a really big hammer, cleanly removing .018 is not triival.

I thouight of winging metal removal... I had heard that .005 was all that needed to be removed, but I'm sure that number varies over time.

Moot point now, cuz mine is on it's way !

As of 5 seconds ago, Dixie Gun Works is still showing stock of them at $55 each.

Rick

[Halfway Creek Charlie]

Rickk,
All you need is a large flat file and something to hold the cylinder. then you need Dial Calipers to measure at all points around the clockface over the face of the cylinder/pawl area to assure that it is flat. That is how I did it. It took some time, but it came out beautifully.

It's file, turn cylinder, file, check with caliper, file, turn, file, turn...etc.

You need to measure the cylinder you have, the new one subtract the difference and take off just that much.

[rickk]

While I still have a cylinder on back order wth Taylors, Dixie came thru. Now my 2 cylinder spare cylinder pouch has two cylinders in it.

Maybe time to buy me a second forged frame gun to go with the spare cylinders?

And the revolving rifle sure does look nice :-)

Now that my wife is home with my 5 year old son, she tends to notice UPS and Fedx trucks making deliveries... this is getting harder and harder. I gotta get my son to greet the UPS guy and hide stuff for me 

Of course, two weeks ago a semi showed up with a 340 pound Cannon barrel in the back that I sorta forgot to mention was on it's way. She noticed the semi for some reason. It worked out OK in the end though... if it was me that was home, the driver woulda made me unload it. He unloaded it fo my wife... so it sorta cancels out in the end. Oddly enough, she said the cannon barrel was smaller than she figured I would have ordered... so next year maybe I'll try a bigger one.

Guess the second 1858 should wait a couple weeks for the dust to settle ?

[Marshal Tac]

RICKK,
Just remember, it's always easier to ask for forgiveness than it is permission.....

[rickk]

but it's easiest to just sneak it in the door when no one is looking and make believe it was always there.