R&D conversion(Remy) cylinder into a Starr revolver????

Started by The Avocado Kid, April 21, 2007, 10:17:26 PM

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The Avocado Kid

Does anybody know if a R&D conversion cylinder for the Remy 1858 NM Army will fit into a Starr(replica) 1858 Double Action .44 Percussion (blued)
Steel-framed black powder revolver.? Thanks,Dusty.
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Flint

If the percussion cylinder fits, so would the conversion.......
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Halfway Creek Charlie

Won't fit without lots of work.
The Bolts are totally different and in different places.
Starr's Bolt notches look like this (). Bolt is intregal with the trigger.
Remy's look like this [] .

Remy's are on the right side of the frame and the Starr is in the middle.

R & D may make one special conversion for your Starr. Call and ask.
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Shooting History (original), Remy NMA Conversions, 1863 New Model Pocket Model C.F. Conversion, Remy Model 1889 12Ga. Coach Gun
2nd. Gen. "C" Series Colt 1851 Navies
Centennial Arms/Centaur 1860 Armies
1860 Civilian Henry 45LC (soon to be 44 Henry Flat C.F.(Uberti)
Remingon Creedmore Rolling Block 45-70 (Pedersoli)

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The Avocado Kid

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The Avocado Kid

Well,I went with the Remy conversion (Pietta) 1858 New Army .44 cal to R&D cylinder "drop-in" at first it didn't want to go in so....I oiled the cylinder pin & the cylinder,I had to tap the cylinder pin a little at first but now it does "drop-in" and works real good. This is the first time I have tried this kind of thing and I really like the fact I can go from Cap&Ball to a .45LC then back to the Cap&Ball gun,very slick,indeed! Dusty.
"Holy smokes thats a lot of Indians!!".....General George Armstrong Custer 7th Cavalry

BlaiseNSaddles

Quote from: Dusty NutSack on April 27, 2007, 02:40:56 AM
Well,I went with the Remy conversion (Pietta) 1858 New Army .44 cal to R&D cylinder "drop-in" at first it didn't want to go in so....I oiled the cylinder pin & the cylinder,I had to tap the cylinder pin a little at first but now it does "drop-in" and works real good. This is the first time I have tried this kind of thing and I really like the fact I can go from Cap&Ball to a .45LC then back to the Cap&Ball gun,very slick,indeed! Dusty.

Dusty,

So the Remmi conversion worked in the Starr then?  Very interesting!

Flint

So how do you resolve the cylinder locking notch location if the Starr bolt is in the middle, the chamber won't align with the barrel?
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Halfway Creek Charlie

He bought a Remington NMA from Pietta and an R & D cylinder.
SAS-76873
NCOWS-2955
SCORRS
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Shooting History (original), Remy NMA Conversions, 1863 New Model Pocket Model C.F. Conversion, Remy Model 1889 12Ga. Coach Gun
2nd. Gen. "C" Series Colt 1851 Navies
Centennial Arms/Centaur 1860 Armies
1860 Civilian Henry 45LC (soon to be 44 Henry Flat C.F.(Uberti)
Remingon Creedmore Rolling Block 45-70 (Pedersoli)

"Cut his ears off and send them to that Marshall in Sheridan" Prentice Ritter

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity
.

The Avocado Kid

Sorry to mislead everyone! Halfway Creek Charlie has it right,I passed on trying to make that work(starr revolver) I purchased a R&D cylinder for the Remy and it did "drop-in" the cylinder fits tight on the cylinder pin but the cylinder is a good fit and works better each time I remove and install it.Again,sorry to mislead some of you guys, thats not what I had in mind here. Dusty.
"Holy smokes thats a lot of Indians!!".....General George Armstrong Custer 7th Cavalry

Halfway Creek Charlie

Dusty,
If you polish the cylinder pin a bit (mirror finish will do...LOL) Shiny is a good thing, and lube the bejeebers out of it it'll work great.  Do not use any petroleum based lubes as they interact with the BP and make hard fouling and do it quickly. Use Bore Butter, it works great and is made from edible ingredients, not that we'd ever eat it, but you can. I lube the pawl area also.
I use only Olive Oil for lube in the internals. The cheap Virgin stuff from the dollar store works great and comes in a bottle small enough to put in your shooting bag.
SAS-76873
NCOWS-2955
SCORRS
STORM-243
WARTHOG

Shooting History (original), Remy NMA Conversions, 1863 New Model Pocket Model C.F. Conversion, Remy Model 1889 12Ga. Coach Gun
2nd. Gen. "C" Series Colt 1851 Navies
Centennial Arms/Centaur 1860 Armies
1860 Civilian Henry 45LC (soon to be 44 Henry Flat C.F.(Uberti)
Remingon Creedmore Rolling Block 45-70 (Pedersoli)

"Cut his ears off and send them to that Marshall in Sheridan" Prentice Ritter

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity
.

The Avocado Kid

"Holy smokes thats a lot of Indians!!".....General George Armstrong Custer 7th Cavalry

The Avocado Kid

Halfway Creek Charlie , I did what you said to do and polished the cylinder pin(just the area inside the frame where the pin goes into the cylinder)down to the metal(took off the blue finish) and this did the trick,cylinder pin goes in the R&D cylinder easy now,Thanks,Dusty.
"Holy smokes thats a lot of Indians!!".....General George Armstrong Custer 7th Cavalry

Halfway Creek Charlie

That sounds good. I usually take the blue off from the wing back.(no one can see it when the gun is together and who cares if they do see it, if it makes my Remy hum better. Just keep her lubed up.

You will naturally get a fire ring around the pin at the front of the cylinder just keep that polished down and you should be fine. it's the hot gas and  Bp that cuts that ring in the pin.  Every time Ii clean my guns I look at the pin and polish over that ring. I have found that after awhile the fire doesn't do any more damage. Maybe because it has forced the bp and gas into the ring and that helps keep it from going deeper. I have several originals and the ring is just so deep on them all.
SAS-76873
NCOWS-2955
SCORRS
STORM-243
WARTHOG

Shooting History (original), Remy NMA Conversions, 1863 New Model Pocket Model C.F. Conversion, Remy Model 1889 12Ga. Coach Gun
2nd. Gen. "C" Series Colt 1851 Navies
Centennial Arms/Centaur 1860 Armies
1860 Civilian Henry 45LC (soon to be 44 Henry Flat C.F.(Uberti)
Remingon Creedmore Rolling Block 45-70 (Pedersoli)

"Cut his ears off and send them to that Marshall in Sheridan" Prentice Ritter

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity
.

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