Cylinder Pouches - new thread

[Wolfgang]

Here's the ones I've been working on.  Got kind of busy getting tires on the rolling workshop that I've been getting completed  ( pictures of it at : www.drburkholter.com/cf16.html if ya care to look ). So took a couple of days to getting around to borrowing the digital camera.  Anyhow,  here's the pouches  ( down at the bottom of the page center ) at: www.drburkholter.com/cf9.html.   Pouches were a military double pouch to hold some sort of a magazines.  I bought it shortly after I got my first '58. Cut the flaps off that covered the magazines and used it some for cylinders.  The belt loops were way too big and so it tended to ride up on my belt.  Just recently dug it out, cut off abut 2in. from the top, made smaller belt loops and used some peices of an old belt to make "hold down" straps.  Sam Brownie buttons and rivets from Tandy to put it together. Works pretty good now.  Not a $$$ wise practical project ( who wants to be practical anyway ? . . ).  You can get real workable pouches ready made from Fall Creek Suttlery that are period correct.  

Speaking of period correct.  A recent thread somone was asking about actual reloading with cylinder swaping back in the civil war/ frontier era.  Most pistol packing in the civil war was either officers or cavalry.  I understand that cavalry tended to carry plenty of pistols with pommel holsters as well as belt holsters.  But earllier to that was the Paterson.  When it was THE PISTOL it was issued with an extra cylinder.  All cased Patersons that I've seen adverized in the collectors market have an extra cylinder cased with them.  Out on the frontier the enemy ( indians ) would have had mostly bows and arrows and maybe a few muzle loading rifles ( probably smooth bore ) during the 1830s early 40s.  A group of men with the Pattersons and extra cylinders for reloading would have had amazing firepower for that period. I read somewhere that when the Patersons were issued to the Texas Rangers that they were warned by the comander "Not to loose their extra cylinder".  

Any other info, thoughts on cylinder swap reloading in the old west welcome.  

Good shootin', . . . them great NEW MODEL ARMY revolvers . . . .  

[Qball]

Impressiv work there Wolfgang.

[Marshal Will Wingam]

That really looks like a good way to go. I need something for mine and will have to give that some consideration.

[rickk]

The Triple K ruger 22 magazine  pouches are a perfect fit for 1858 cylinders. They come in both singel and double.

Lots of places carry them ... prices vary all over the place.

Here is a link to Brownells so you can see what they look like:
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=20834&title=RUGER%7e+10%2f22%7e+MAGAZINE+POUCH

When I got mine, I thought it was a bit light colored, and too uniform of a dye job, so I went over it again with some brown leather dye and resealed it with acrylic sealer. It looks much better now - it matches my holster and gunbelt. The holster and belt I made myself (I do leather work on the side), but for the price I couldn't possibly have made a pouch like the Triple-K

[Bryan Austin]

See Wolfgang, I do use the search feature!!!! You showed me your website before but I ran across this thread!!

[Wolfgang]

See Wolfgang, I do use the search feature!!!! You showed me your website before but I ran across this thread!!

The pictures of my cylinder pouches that I E-mailed to you used to be on that page of my web site.  I've revised that page a bit since the time of this thread.

Good shootin', . . . . 

[James Hunt]

Not to throw cold water on your thread, but am interested since you implied their use during the period - and with the issue of extra cylinders provided for some colts revolvers; do you have any primary source material that would suggest the existence or use of cylinder pouches as shown for a revolver during the era? Not really my area of interest, but through the years of looking for other stuff I have never found any.

[Wolfgang]

I only recall reading about the Patersons and that the early issue of the Patersons to the Texas Rangers were with an extra cylinder.  And that the men were threatened heartily not to loose their extra cylinder.   I only recently hear a mention on the wire about the Walkers having extra cylinders.  I'd never heard of that.  I really have never heard / read of any method for carrying such extra cylinders.  As far as I can recall all the cased Patersons that I've seen pictures of have extra cylinders with them. 

[James Hunt]

Wolfgang: Thanks for your candor. Certainly extra cylinders were supplied with some guns, most notably cased sets. Never came across that information about the Walkers. I also have never come across any period source for the use of "cylinder pouches". I think they must be a "reenactorism" much like today's common use of priming horns for the colonial frontier and western fur trade.

From a functional perspective, it doesn't seem practical to dissemble  your Colt's revolver in the middle of a fire fight, particularly if horseback. Perhaps this is why cartridges were developed, although capping the thing on a nervous animal must have been interesting (there is a written military procedure for doing exactly that though). Certainly a Remington facilitates a more secure and rapid cylinder switch, but I am unaware of any purchase of extra cylinders for such by the military or any period description of doing such, all due respect to Clint Eastwood of  course .

[Wolfgang]

The mention of the issue of Patersons with the spare cylinder was in a history of Colt and the development of his company that I read some time ago.  There was nothing about any proceedure for reloading with them.  Just that they were issued and the strongly worded warming "not to loose the extra cylinder" that was given to them.   

[Wolfgang]

I am not personally aquainted with any Civil War reenactors.   They are fanatical about Hysterical Accuracy in EVERYTHING.  Including the buttons on underwears.   They should know for real about use of extra cylinders and carrying such things.  "Gettysburg" movie was highly researched to be historically accurate and had the officer of the Union troops on Little Round Top swaping the cylinder in his Colt for a fresh loaded one between charges.  This is an interesting bit of "gun stuff" that the general public would never notice or care about.  I can't imagine it being included unless research showed it to have been a reloading proceedure that was practiced at the time.  When I get around to it maybe I'll hunt up a Civil War forum and seek more information. 

James Hunt, . . thanks for stimulating my curiosity to know more on this subject. 

Good shootin', . . . .