photos of 1858 45 Colt Factory gated conversion

Tuolumne Lawman · March 13, 2007, 12:39:01 PM

It dawned on me that I don't think I posted the photos of my pet 45 Colt Factory gated cartridge conversion.

Here goes

Tuolumne Lawman · March 13, 2007, 12:39:45 PM

Here's another

Catdad · March 13, 2007, 02:18:01 AM

Ok, you convcinced me. I now want one of those to complement my 1875!

Marshal Will Wingam · March 13, 2007, 05:25:34 AM

I really like the gate on it. You can open it much like a Colt gate. This is a clean conversion. Thanks for sharing the photos.

Silver Creek Slim · March 13, 2007, 07:27:17 PM

Looks real nice. Is it a Pietta or Uberti?

Slim

Tuolumne Lawman · March 14, 2007, 01:15:57 AM

It is an Uberti. It is made at the Uberti factory, starting with an unissued forged frame 1858, converted to a cartridge revolver the same way as the original "thick plate conversions," and is shipped as a 6 shot 45 Colt/Schofield revolver. I got it from Taylors. In fact, this is the one used for the photos in their new 2007 catalog! I had to ship it to the photographers, and got it shipped back.

It does not come with a percussion cylinder and an FFL is required.

It shoots as good as it looks. It is featured in one of my upcoming Cowboy Chronicle Articles.

Long Johns Wolf · March 15, 2007, 02:58:06 AM

Howdy Tuolumne Lawman - congrats, nice pistol.
I have 2 questions regarding the ejector: Is it kind of spring loaded or does it just travel freely in the ejector tube? Does it have a "knob" at the tip to safely keep it in the tube?
Bootsie

Marshal Tac · March 15, 2007, 03:37:50 AM

Bootsie..... not to answer for T.L., but the ones I have seen are not spring loaded like a Colt or Ruger ejector rod. They are retained by having a small block of steel on the muzzle end that is captured by a notch that is cut out of the loading lever. The ones I have seen do not have a loading ram at all, and the loading lever is there simply to hold the cylinder pin and ejector rod in.

You have to release and lower the loading lever to allow the ejector rod to moved back and forth to eject the spent cases.

It's a real nice set up.

Marshal Will Wingam · March 15, 2007, 10:45:28 AM

Quote from: Marshal Tac on March 15, 2007, 03:37:50 AMThe ones I have seen do not have a loading ram at all, and the loading lever is there simply to hold the cylinder pin and ejector rod in.

Did they just remove the ram or was there some additional modification to the lever where the ram would have attached?

Marshal Tac · March 15, 2007, 12:56:13 PM

Marshal Wil,
The ones I have seen have the ram shortened to the point that it does not touc the cylinder when the lever is depressed. A small portion of the ram is there, but not enough to seat a bullet or ball.

Galloway · March 15, 2007, 03:24:12 PM

Very nice gun. You can chip off the varnish on the grip casters with a push pin and your finger nail.

Marshal Will Wingam · March 15, 2007, 08:13:27 PM

Thanks, pard. I'll yank mine out and lop 'em off one of these days. That's a good idea. No possibility of jamming one down on top of a live round. Of course, my 38's won't do that since they started life as .44's and got sleeved to size, but it still eliminates any possible interference.

davidsheets · August 30, 2007, 07:59:51 PM

How accurate is the gun with the conversion?
Is it a six-shot conversion?
Is this the model you have?
http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/products/cfRemingtonConversion.tpl

Major 2 · August 31, 2007, 07:04:59 AM

David the answer to your questions

Very accurate I'm quite taken with it's POA ... this very gun is in my possession ,having traded with TL.
He now has a 5 1/2 I believe...
It is a six shot... I prefer Sch. because My OT is chambered in that round. However it shoots quite well with the Black Hills & Ultra Max 45 LC.
I have not tested the numbers, but I believe TL did in his review on this very gun for the SASS Chronicle article.

The model you refer in your link at Taylor's is the correct order , however it is not the correct gun ( the description has not been updated )
This is totally new revolver, not a reworked C&B revolver.
At present, when you buy one it comes as a Conversion, the C&B Cylinders will not line up, don't try it...
The lastest copy of Gun of the Old West has an artical about them... I'm very happy with mine.

Catdad · August 31, 2007, 12:12:23 PM

I second the motion regarding the accuracy of the 1858! I got one to go along with my '75 and love them both. I shoot only cartridges in them. Now, the only problem is finding time to play with 'em.

Marshal Will Wingam · August 31, 2007, 02:21:26 PM

Sometimes I don't know if I reload so I can go shooting or shoot so I can do some reloading.

Old Top · August 31, 2007, 11:19:03 PM

Marshal Will,

I completely understand, and agree with you.

Old Top

Halfway Creek Charlie · September 02, 2007, 12:52:18 PM

BOTH!

Cincy Slim · September 04, 2007, 08:29:33 AM

Howdy,

I'd sure be temped to age and/or antique one of these to make it look like an original.

I'm guessing there is no gas bushing like a Colt or a machined collar around the cylinder pin like a 1875 Remmie. That's the biggest flaw with my Kirst converted Remmie. Gas and crud from the cylinder/barrel gap has a straight shot into the cylinder pin area. Ballistol or bore butter helps but deposits can still build up pretty quick in there.

Nice shootin' iron. Might have to have one.

Cincinnati Slim

Halfway Creek Charlie · September 04, 2007, 01:56:51 PM

Cincy Slim,
If you mill a shallow groove about 1/4" long , 1/2 inside of the cylinder and 1/2 outside the cylinder, this will help fix the problem a bit more.
Got this from my 2nd Gen Colt Navies and the Belgian Colt Armies. Their arbors were machined this way and it sure helps trap the gas and crud. I hadn't found it when I had my Euroarms Remy's but the next one I get I will do this to the cylinder pin fer sure.