Website Gone?

[Major Matt Lewis]

Ok,

So when did the GAF Website go away?  I'm not talking about the website being down, I am talking about it being gone!

[Hedley Lamarr]

It appears that nobody bothered to renew the domain name.
It expired Feb. 14th (today).
And was immediately grabbed by a name holder and re-directed to their site.
Note the expiration: 2008 is the NEW DOMAIN OWNERS expiration.

Domain ID:D94483211-LROR
Domain Name:GRANDARMYOFTHEFRONTIER.ORG
Created On:14-Feb-2003 18:39:37 UTC
Last Updated On:15-Feb-2007 01:23:10 UTC
Expiration Date:14-Feb-2008 18:39:37 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:eNom401, Incorporated (R21-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:UL223-BR
Registrant Name:unknown Locksley
Registrant Organization:Locksley
Registrant Street1:PO Box 35190
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Phoenix
Registrant State/Province:AZ
Registrant Postal Code:85069
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.6026953338
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:joeb@locksley.com
Admin ID:JB11616-BR
Admin Name:Joe Bethancourt
Admin Organization:Locksley
Admin Street1:PO Box 35190
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Phoenix
Admin State/Province:AZ
Admin Postal Code:85069
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.6026953338
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:joeb@locksley.com
Tech ID:DC2789-BR
Tech Name:David Crowfoot
Tech Organization:Works 4 Me
Tech Street1:2039 N 197th Ave
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Buckeye
Tech State/Province:Arizona
Tech Postal Code:85396-5681
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.6027174639
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:domains@works4me.com
Name Server:DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server:DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server:DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server:DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server:DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM

[River City John]

You have got to be kidding me!

(This does not mean the new owner owns content, too? Did all that info just vanish like mist, or is it saved to a hard drive or disc somewhere?)


I know that this has blindsided us, but somehow I would have hoped the original web master could have been able to alert someone to at least be aware of the timeframe for the expiration date?

Can we recreate the site by purchasing a new domain using slightly altered titling?
 

[Silver Creek Slim]

I am pretty sure if you knew what the IP address of the server is, you could type in it and get to the website. You just can't get to it using GRANDARMYOFTHEFRONTIER.ORG.

Slim

[Wymore Wrangler]

Before you all get all lathered up, looking at what Hedley posted, Joe Bethancourt is a cowboy shooter, I believe he might also be a GAF member, his SASS alias is Sam Hanes if I remember correctly, and he's one of the good guys.  I know he hosts the website for Big Ed's San Pedro Saddley plus a few others, so you might want to contact him, maybe it's his intention to host the site...  Ten again, maybe he's holding it hostage so you all will buy his music CD's.....

[Hedley Lamarr]

You have got to be kidding me!

(This does not mean the new owner owns content, too? Did all that info just vanish like mist, or is it saved to a hard drive or disc somewhere?)


I know that this has blindsided us, but somehow I would have hoped the original web master could have been able to alert someone to at least be aware of the timeframe for the expiration date?

Can we recreate the site by purchasing a new domain using slightly altered titling?

Sorry RCJ, not kidding.
Just went thru this with another cowboy club that has web pages on the Open Range Server. They lost track of the expiration and ended up getting a new domain name.

And the content is still intact, on the same server it was on. Whoever had access to the site still can get to it. Nothing needs to be changed there, once the old or a new domain is registered, it will point right to the info.

And yes, the simplest and cheapest way is to get a new domain.

I have no idea who purchased the original domain name.
Whoever did, put Joe Bethancourt aka Sam Hane as the contact. Perhaps US Scout can contact him for more info.

[Hedley Lamarr]

Wymore,
At this point, it doesn't matter who is hosting the site.
The domain name is gone, and can only come back if purchased again.
For who knows how much.

In the old days, you had 30 days grace to renew your domain. Now there are companies that troll for expiring sites and grab the name the literal second they expire.
They paid a small fee to grab the name for a year and then they want $ to sell it back to you.

Not cowboy, but (unfortunately) legal.

[bosunpete]

I know Joe through the SCA, I'll send him an email to find out what he plans on doing with the URL.  Worst case scenario We rebuild the website on another server. (I'll volunteer mine if need be)

Bosun Pete

[Bull Schmitt]

No problem rebuilding the web site. I have a full copy on my PC

Usually when a domain name is about to expire the owner is notified. I wonder what happened this time.

We may have to select a variation of the original domain name if the original one is gone.

[Captain Barrett]

Folks,

Sam Hane (Joe Locksley) has contacts with illusions.com. He got us the web site for nothing. Perhaps someone at illusions did not remind him of the upcoming event...

In any case, perhaps Bull and others can think of a new domain name (gaf.org?), register it at a new ISP and upload the site again. I understand this is a bit of a problem, but this can be handled easily...

I am hoping to buy a server within the next few months. I would donate space on the server for the web site since the server I hope to be buying will have 396GB of storage on it in a RAID5 configuration. Once I contact the ISP, I shall get my company domain name registered and will see how much it costs to register another domain name to the same IP address pool...

Have faith. Try to set up the site again on a free server for a bit...

[bosunpete]

I do have unlimited hosting available already on my business server to donate. But we do need a URL/domain first.

GAF.org is taken btw, I checked.

[Bull Schmitt]

Anybody have an email address fro Sam Hane? The one I used last summer doesn't work.

[Silver Creek Slim]

Here's the one from his website: azbanjo@whitetreeaz.com

Slim

[Bull Schmitt]

I have tried a couple email address for Sam Hane and have had no luck contacting him. It appears to me we still have a few days to save our domain name but we have to have Sam do it. If anyone can get in touch with him pronto and alert him to our situation please do so ASAP!!


Col Bull

[Hedley Lamarr]

Bull, did you try this number?
602-695-3338

[bosunpete]

It just occurred to me that Joe B may be at Estrella War this weekend and may not be around his 'puter.

[Bull Schmitt]

I received a message from Joe "Sam Hane" that the problem is being fixed so it won't happen again.

Many thanks Sam!!

The web site is back up on line!!!

Col Bull

[Wymore Wrangler]

Hate to say I told you so, but I did....

[Silver Creek Slim]

Thanks, Sam and Bull.

Slim

[River City John]

Glory Halleluja!

And thanks to all involved.