1860 Stock Screws

Started by Noz, December 29, 2006, 03:45:41 PM

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Noz

The only thing that I don't like about my 1860s is the stock screws that stick out from the sides of the frame. Does anyone have a suggestion on where to find replacement screws that don't protrude?

Grapeshot

Grind off the heads and either solder the threaded part or lock tite in in place.  Grind off the heads while the screws are out of the gun.
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Fox Creek Kid

Buy a civilian model three screw 1860 from Cimarron.  ;D

Yankee John

I just did a comparison between my Armi San Marco 1860 (stainless steel, 8" barrel)  and my Pietta 1860 (snubnose 3" barrel). 

The stock screws protrude .128" on the ASM,  and only .070"  on the Pietta.

John


Steel Horse Bailey

Yankee John:  Do ya have a thread gage, or can ya try one of those Pietta screws in the ASM?  If they fit then:

Nozzle Rag, try VTI gunparts and buy a couple Pietta replacements.  Or grind the heads off like Grapeshot suggests.  I LIKE the stock screws - it shows its military heritage; but those screws DO seem to stick out a bit.  Especially if YOUR gun is also an ASM!

VTI Website

https://www.vtigunparts.com/ab2240000Equick/

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St. George

The stock screws on the late '70's-early'80's 2d Generation Colt Model 1860's with their associated stocks also protrude somewhat - but in looking at some of the other offerings, I think that they may have somewhat thcker heads than those supplied by Colt.

Both Dixie Gun Works and VTI should have a set that you can buy and install that won't interfere with anything.

Good Luck.

Vaya,

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Yankee John

I just tried swapping the stock bolts and they aren't even close- the Pietta screws just dropped right into the holes of the ASM frame.  The Pietta screws are smaller than the ASM screws.

I don't have any way of checking thread pitch or size for metric bolts.  Sorry!

John

Quote from: Steel Horse Bailey on December 30, 2006, 11:28:39 AM
Yankee John:  Do ya have a thread gage, or can ya try one of those Pietta screws in the ASM?  If they fit then:

Nozzle Rag, try VTI gunparts and buy a couple Pietta replacements.  Or grind the heads off like Grapeshot suggests.  I LIKE the stock screws - it shows its military heritage; but those screws DO seem to stick out a bit.  Especially if YOUR gun is also an ASM!

VTI Website

https://www.vtigunparts.com/ab2240000Equick/



St. George

All I can tell you is that they're Metric.

If you don't have a thread guage - take 'em to a machine shop and ask if they can help.

Good Luck.

Vaya,

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It Wasn't Schoolboys and Ladies - It Was Cowtowns and Sin..."

Noz

Thanks guys for the suggestions.  That is a very small screw for me to try to grind with what I have to work with. I don't wish to pay a machinist to do the work so I'll just live with them. Complain, but live with them.

Steel Horse Bailey

Hey! Nozzie!

Perhaps you could grind off some of the screw head.  At least you could make it thinner so it doesn't stick out as much.  If you have a Dremel, you could use it after grinding the head a bit thinner (on a grinder or even using the Dremel) to cut a new screw slot.  It might take 5-10 minutes.  A little touch-up blue and yer back in biz-ness.

Just a thought.
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St. George

Most guys at the machine shops I've used are more than helpful and welcome a different question such as this one.

I've never been charged for asking thread pitch.

As to grinding the screw itself - get a Swiss Needle file with a safe edge and relieve the back side of the screw head and then shorten it appropriately.

Doing so will give you the right 'look' and the right length - and you won't have to have the head polished and blued.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

"It Wasn't Cowboys and Ponies - It Was Horses and Men.
It Wasn't Schoolboys and Ladies - It Was Cowtowns and Sin..."

Qball

Quote from: St. George on December 30, 2006, 09:50:45 PM
All I can tell you is that they're Metric.

If you don't have a thread guage - take 'em to a machine shop and ask if they can help.

Good Luck.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!






You could try with a M5 screw
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