'72 o\t ammo question

[White Buffalo Chip]

Howdy folks,
Seems like I've gotten myself an
invite to a costume party on N/Y
eve.It's in a sketchy part of town.
I'll be wearing my double Doc rig
with '72 opentops, and was wonderin'
about switching the .44spl cowboy
loads to Win 'Silvertip' hp's for the
occasion just as a precaution.Any
opinions are welcome.
WBC
#64713L

[Fox Creek Kid]

Open carry w/ loaded guns surrounded by partying people consuming alcohol. Hmmm. Sounds like a lethal "cocktail" to me. Also, a good way to end up in jail. This is a hobby message board & not www.packing.org. Merry Xmas. 

[White Buffalo Chip]

Thanks Fox Creek
Actually I should've explained that while
attending the actual gathering the pistolas
will contain snapcaps only, and will be worn
beneath a vest and frock coat.I was mainly
wondering about modern hp ammo in a o\t
frame.
WBC
#64713L

[Goody]

I wouldn't do it. Don't think they are strong enough.

[White Buffalo Chip]

Thank you, Goody
Reckon I'll just put a Mak
in my pocket instead.Y'all
have a Merry Christmas.
WBC

[Major 2]

Frankly , any of the factory loaded CAS ammo is fine for the OT's
Well within the OT's load limit..
Hot loaded Hp Magnum loads are not

as a carry gun ammo... 44 & 45 CAS Ammo is Big, slow, with less fear of over penetration & adequate..


I'm with Fox Creek Kid .....
Florida has one of the best CWC laws in the US. But you can't carry were Alcohol is served.

[will52100]

A 44 colt, or 45 colt or schofield loaded with a heavy soft lead slug and black powder would be a proven man stoper, especialy the 45 colt.  Unfortunatly I don't know how you would fair in court with black powder loads and an opentop, they might think you had it in your head to be a gunslinger or sumthing.

[White Buffalo Chip]

 :DHowdy folks,
Thank y'all for the advise
I've shot these o/t's with Black Hills .44colt 230gr and
the fp lead penetration was dismal,about 3/4 of the way
through a spruce 2x4 at about 10yds.Haven't tried any
.44spl loads yet.
  Major, the Win"Silvertip"h\p aren't magnum/hot loads, at
least they're not marked as such on the box,I'll refrain from
using them in the o/t's anyway.
  Will,howdy,wasn't figgerin' on gunslinging,just thinking
about the old two birds with one stone thing.
Have a merry Christmas y'all.
WBC
 

[will52100]

Howdy, didn't figure you were planning on gunslingen, but I often wonder what a narrow minded liberal prosicuter would make of a person defending themselves with a weopon like the opentop?  I offten keep my 73' Uberti cattleman in my dresser drawer loaded with soft cast and black powder, but I wonder how that would play out in court if I ever had to use it?  I can always say that it's my standard load for recreational shooting which it is, but?

You should try some black powder loads for the opentop, they'll surprise you what there capable of, I don't see why hollow point loads wouldn't work long as you keep your pressure down.n  I'd probably reload my own just to be sure.

[Major 2]

Not wanting to highjack the thread but an intresting point has been brought up....

Posted by: will52100
"....but I often wonder what a narrow minded liberal prosecutor would make of a person defending themselves with a weapon like the opentop?  I often keep my 73' Uberti cattleman in my dresser drawer loaded with soft cast and black powder, but I wonder how that would play out in court if I ever had to use it?


narrow minded liberal prosecutor , indeed .... these Prosecutors & defence lawyers (PC crowd) have put the rights of the criminal ahead of the victim in the past and won their cases.

There is a new wind blowing in Florida , and now Miss. & Georgia...



Florida "Castle Doctrine" Protects the Innocent
Puts Judiciary on the side of crime victims
On March 23, 2005, The Florida Senate passed SB-436, the "Castle Doctrine" unanimously, by a vote of 39 YEAS to zero NAYS. They know something about this bill.
On April 5, The Florida House passed SB-436, "Castle Doctrine" by a vote of 94 YEAS to 20 NAYS, a margin of better than four to one.On April 26, Governor Jeb Bush SIGNED SB-436, the "Castle Doctrine" into law (Chapter No. 2005-27) It takes effect on October 1, 2005.

The Florida "Castle Doctrine" law basically does three things:

One: It establishes, in law, the presumption that a criminal who forcibly enters or intrudes into your home or occupied vehicle is there to cause death or great bodily harm, therefore a person may use any manner of force, including deadly force, against that person.

Two: It removes the "duty to retreat" if you are attacked in any place you have a right to be. You no longer have to turn your back on a criminal and try to run when attacked. Instead, you may stand your ground and fight back, meeting force with force, including deadly force, if you reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm to yourself or others. [This is an American right repeatedly recognized in Supreme Court gun cases.]

Three: It provides that persons using force authorized by law shall not be prosecuted for using such force.

It also prohibits criminals and their families from suing victims for injuring or killing the criminals who have attacked them.

In short, it gives rights back to law-abiding people and forces judges and prosecutors who are prone to coddling criminals to instead focus on protecting victims

[will52100]

thanks for the info major, I've read about the castle doctrin law, but haven't had it spelled out quite like that.  Glad to see something like that come along, though it's a shame that common sense has to be regulated.

[Fox Creek Kid]

I'd say that law is a step backward...................to the CORRECT WAYS of days gone past when a man's house was his castle and real men didn't retreat but stood & delivered!

[Major 2]

The liberal news media nationwide started in immediately with its "Gunshine State," blood in the streets, Dirty Harry, vigilante, irrational mass murder nonsense.
They claimed that the new law will turn Florida into the Wild West
That's not only an insult to intelligent people but give a patently false portrait of what the bill actually does.

[Fox Creek Kid]

Hey Major, you mean if guns cause crime then spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat? 

[Major 2]

Hey Major, you mean if guns cause crime then spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat? 

perhaps...wonder what she blames UGLY on ?