Thinking about buying a new C&B revolver......

Mad Mucus · September 27, 2006, 11:21:25 PM

G'day gents,

Talk me into buying one of these lil' darlins.....

Never seen one, don't have access to one, C&B is a new scene for me.

Mucus

Fox Creek Kid · September 27, 2006, 11:54:39 PM

It's a replica of nothing, i.e., not period correct.

Adirondack Jack · September 28, 2006, 12:05:53 AM

Quote from: Fox Creek Kid on September 27, 2006, 11:54:39 PM
It's a replica of nothing, i.e., not period correct.

Absolutely correct ,but is hands down the toughest C&B out there. They really really work. It's a ROOGER!

Mad Mucus · September 28, 2006, 03:23:43 AM

Quote from: Fox Creek Kid on September 27, 2006, 11:54:39 PM
It's a replica of nothing, i.e., not period correct.

"Period correctness" and "Replication" never did spin my wheels.

I'm into strength, quality, reliability, and most of all.....

GRIN FACTOR

Already a proud SA Ruger owner and fan.

Mucus

Montana Slim · September 28, 2006, 06:42:35 AM

Purty...for a modern gun....but, IMO it is the "gamer-gun" for frontiersman class

Slim

Dick Dastardly · September 28, 2006, 07:46:05 AM

Ho MM,

SASS legal, Ruger strong!

Walt Kirst makes a great Kirst Konverter cylinder for it chambered in 45 Colt. I've got a brace of 'em that's about as old as the Old Army gets. They've got brass backstraps and squareback trigger guards.

The ROA is probably the most accurate C&B gun going. They look great, shoot great and last long. They don't break and generally shoot good rite out of the box.

I've got a special designed conical bullet mold for them called the DD/ROA. With these bullets pre Lube Sized the gun loads darn near as fast as a cartridge revolver. I load the cylinders on my gun cart with a cylinder loading stand and cap 'em at the reloading table. Annnd. . . . the new EPP-UG is designed to work great in that gun's C&B cylinder, as well as in Adirondak Jack's new 45 Cowboy Special brass that will also fit the Kirst Konverter cylinder.

I'm not a fast shooter, but I took third place shooting Gunfighter with 'em at out SASS State Championship. Nothing great, but I was shooting C&B whilst all the others were shootin' cartridge guns. Of course, if yer lookin' for reality, a third place gunfighter gets a long look at the inside of a pine box. . .

DD-DLoS

Mason Stillwell · September 28, 2006, 08:13:37 AM

I have 2 of the blued 7.5 inch barrels.They are HEAVY They are UGLY . But I must confess they Flat Work!!!

Most of the time I shoot my 58's . If I am going to a really big math now days I take the Roogers.Although I did shoot to a second place finish in Frontiersman at winter range a couple of years back with my 58's . Go Figger.

Mason

sundance44`s · September 28, 2006, 09:36:41 AM

Lots of grin factor ... just no style points .

Dick Dastardly · September 28, 2006, 10:40:52 AM

In looking at the posts to this thread, it becomes apparent that there's two groups shooting C&B pistols. NCOWS pards prefer as much authenticity as they kin get. SASS pards prefer reliability over style. I'm kind of in the middle. There's nothing more natural looking to my eye than the 1860 open tops. They are smooth, long and pointable. They slide out of the holster easy and look historically deadly.

When I come to shootn' a SASS match and I want as close to 100% reliability as I kin get with a front stuffer, I prefer the ROAs. They are the logical evolution of the C&B design with modern metal, coil springs and full SAAMI ruggedness. With the Kirst Konverter cylinder they will handle some tall loads that would make lesser guns come from together.

I can't wait to get some EPP-UG boolits cast up and give 'em a ride. El Paso Pete designed the EPP-UG bullet to emulate round ball performance in 44 caliber front stuffers. With the final design changes, it will do that and more. I intend to shoot 'em with original round ball powder charges that were used in 1860 open tops. I'll also load sum up in AJ's new 45 Cowboy Special brass with about the same powder charge.

Who ever said there ain't much versatility in loads for front stuffers.

DD-DLoS

Cactus Cris · September 28, 2006, 12:23:14 PM

Out of the many C&B toys I got- The ROA's are the most reliable-smooth. For a match that I go to with the intention of finishing in the top 10- I use the ROA's. For all the rest I use the other 18 C&B's that I have. IMHO there is no BAD C&B--only some better than others, & the bad ones can be made to be better.

Adirondack Jack · September 28, 2006, 01:00:49 PM

DD, that EPP/UG bullet, cast sweet with a little extra lead in the WW alloy, and loaded with a full Cowboy .45 Special case of FFFG BP or FFG 777, (or a stuffed tight chamber in the ROA, if one wants to go caseless), will be a hum dinger not only for CAS, but a great round to knock the stuffing out of most any critter that needs it within sensible limits. Wait till ya do some wet newsprint or water jug tests. Ya won't believe it's a C&B bullet.

hellgate · September 28, 2006, 03:18:37 PM

The ROAs take the FUN out of malFUNction. i.e. they work. I do not own nor will I likely ever own a ROA since I am into the feel of history when I shoot C&Bs. However, I do not resent their use by others who have less tolerance for malfunctions and less tinkering time than I do. I've got no use for one bit that's my "thing". Most of the problems with the C&B have been engineered out of them by Ruger. The cost is considerably more than for an Italian repro but will outlast a ton of them.

Mason Stillwell · September 28, 2006, 06:44:01 PM

Dick

I dont seem to have a mould for that epp-ug boolit.

I am a mould nut

Mason

Dick Dastardly · September 28, 2006, 09:08:37 PM

They're on order Mason. I spent some more of my 401K. I'll give you a hollar soon as they come round the bend.

DD-DLoS

Adirondack Jack · September 28, 2006, 10:46:56 PM

Quote from: Dick Dastardly on September 28, 2006, 09:08:37 PM
They're on order Mason. I spent some more of my 401K. I'll give you a hollar soon as they come round the bend.

DD-DLoS

hope ya got a few on order,DD. I was talkin to a feller in CA tonight who shoots .38s with Big Lube boolits he buys from a local caster, and when I related the story of EPP/UG bullet, he says "well, I gotta tell my guy to get one of them". He's likin'the idea of the EPP/UG in the short Cowboy .45 Special cases, as he's currently a Snakebite shooter, in FC and figures this one will perform just about the same but will be legal for classic cowboy, or for Frontiersman in a ROA.

sundance44`s · September 29, 2006, 07:33:30 AM

Something anyone looking at new Rugers would probally already know .. for the price of 1 Ruger you can buy 2 Remington 1858`s .Can`t beat a Pair with one of a kind .

Mad Mucus · October 04, 2006, 03:22:11 AM

Guess what..... NIL STOCKS of this 5.5" model in Oz.

Can't seem to get any info/dates on the next shipment either.

Only 7.5" blue and brushed stainless available.

Mucus

Dick Dastardly · October 04, 2006, 07:34:21 AM

Them 7-1/2" ROAs point better. The natural balance and pointability suffers some when two inches are bobbed of the tubes. The longer ones are a tad slower out of the holster, but they miss less. Of course, I shoot 'em Gunfighter.

DD-DLoS

Mad Mucus · October 04, 2006, 08:38:14 AM

DD,

Thanks for the encouragement..... so ya reckon I'd be doin' myself a favor gettin' this one.....

Mucus

Arcey · October 04, 2006, 09:09:04 AM

I like the longer barrel but that's just me.

The 'not-period-correct' crowd can take a hike. The Rugers are good revolvers, damned good 'n SASS legal.

I have a ROA. And, a '58 Remington. And, a copy of a copy of a Confederate '51. If I could only have one it would be the Pietta Remington. That's for CAS. If I had ta bet my hind parts on it, the Ruger. Then again, my hind parts are covered by a Glock.

Go for it, MM. It's just a game.