What, 'zactly, is it? OT? Conversion?

[Goody]

Just a thought on the light strikes. I currently have 3 of this model, all Traditions I think, 1-51 Navy and 2-60 Army. Does yours have a screw in the hammer that adjusts the anvil(?) in the front of the hammer that actually strikes the  FP? If so mine have backed out slightly on occasion causing light hits. You might go in a half turn and see if it cures the problem. Mine now have lock tight so as not to loosen up again.

[W.T.]

 It does, indeed, have that adjustment screw.  Will ne a while but will give a half-turn & see what happens.  Thanks, Goody, got my fingers crossed.

[Major 2]

How did Goody's suggestion work out for ya ?

Did ya go pick up the USFA Navy ?

[W.T.]

How did Goody's suggestion work out for ya ?

Did ya go pick up the USFA Navy ?

Gave the screw a 1/3 turn & packed the gun up with the screwdriver & a tube of Loctite blue so when I finally get the chance to shoot it, i can make adjustments on the spot.  Hope it works; trying not to think about pierced primers.  Been there, done that with vintage battle rifles - don't wanna go back.

My post-retirement 'career' is a retail shop open 7 days a week and my partner is in Texas on familt business for another week.  Only chance I got for anything CAS over the last week was to leave the store int he hands of the part-timer one evening so I could actually see a Cowboy shoot at the NRA headquarters range.

While waiting for the shooting to start, I saw another ASM offered for sale on the range bulletin board.  It is an "AWA" (American Western Arms) - I believe it's an ASM because a third edition "Blue Book BP Values" came thru the shop & I looked it up.  Man wants 500 for it!

Major, you're my go-to guy on ASMs: what's the deal on AWAs?  Were they also made to a somewhat higher standard like the Navy Arms?  Saw someplace on the Web that they were 'sort-of' a copy of the Richards type 1. 

Couple guys at the cowboy shoot asked if I'd already bought sixguns, smiled when I mentioned my OM Vaqueros (almost everybody there was using Rugers,except for one gent with a real pretty Schofield and another with a 38 Conversion), and made the sign of the Cross as if warding off vampires when I said "ASM'.

Anyhow, that one shoot I saw and all this late-nite Cas City reading and whatnot has got me all dressed up with no place to go, except to work.  Been bugging Taylor's witrh e-mails re: their 1861 .36s and conversion cylinders.  Am still unsure about another ASM - have some dough left, but i still need a Henry & a coach gun, and I fear going down a path where reliabilty and parts availability could get to be a problem.

More i read up on CAS, the more i am drawn to NCOWS' approach (not to exclude SASS, of course) - the .36/.38 combo seems to offer the best of both worlds, since i'd like to do all three: 45LC, .38 conversion, and .36 C&B.

My wife likes to point out that I am a person of many enthusiams, and that whenever I develop a new one, I "buy the whole shop."  I own forty-odd cameras, and many, many old military rifles (1878 - 1942).  CAS is kinda pricey, and I am urged to limit my horizons.

sorry for the ramble -

WT

[Major 2]

Not at all... Shooting the breeze, is when you can't shoot the real thing.

First I shouldn't worry to much about parts... As I said, Uberti parts should fit your ASM , with a stroke or two of a file if not....
Heck,I use a Wolf "73" SAA Colt bolt spring in my Sec. Gen. 1860 with an R&D Cylinder.

AWA went away for awhile , but I think they are back in Business. Some shoot the 73 SAA Colt clones imported by them, ( Pietta's now days ,I think ) Charles Daily's are much the same....

$500 is a bit steep though...... because you can get a brand new Cimmaron for $450-500.

Just about every firearm , you read about here,  has it's Pro People & Con People... ( no check that ! EVERY Firearm you read about )

I may not endear myself, to the Ruger Crowd, but if a vanilla white plain Jane Chevy is your style ( even if it's a Police special ) Rugers are tough to beat....Been there done that, got bored at it...
Shot SASS for years with OMV's , a Stoeger & a Marlin, a touch of success at it too.

Gallagher said " STYLE ! " That for me, is a Mule ear SXS , my Henry & Spencers & my R&M's and Opentop.
I don't care about blistering fast anymore... and would love to see NCOWs here in Florida.
And I refuse to be Half-fast, 28 years of Mounted Cavalry Reenacting instilled that.

My suggestion to you is either pair your ASM with a Cimmaron R&M or Get yourself a (gated or not ) R&D Cylinder for an Uberti 1860 Army.
By all means, get the 60 Henry (or maybe even one of the King Conversions  ) 
And the SXS`of your choice ( I'm quite taken with my TTn  ) but then that's just me 


That's the beauty of the hobby , you can lose yourself in history and lock the date (in my case 1870's) ,  maybe Shine with the 1950's Silver Screen Heros or anything in between.

[W.T.]

Thanks to Goody, Smokin_Gun, & Major 2 (and finally getting the time), the tale of Il Bastardo (since re-christened "Ol' Quasi") had a happy ending.  Details are posted over on TOR and include a link to some pix:

http://www.theopenrange.net/forum/index.php?topic=3681.0

Thanks again, Pards!

WT

[1860]

WT,

I noticed in your Pic spread on the other board that your gun was shooting to the left.  I have a couple ASM's and have worked on a number of others and they all seem to want to shoot to the left.  Here is how I fix it, I laminate(silver solder) two pieces of flat brass stock that is slightly larger in diameter than the slot in the bbl., I leave them stepped.  I file it all down to the desired shape of the blade and also fit the part that goes in the bbl. so that the stepped part ends up flush with the top of the bbl.  Hard to explain but I end up with the front blade sitting perpendicular to the bbl but offset to the left.  It just looks better than bending the front blade or fileing the rear knotch...

Here is a pic of one:




This is an older pic and I have not cleaned off the excess epoxy I use to hold them in but it looks pretty good and unless you look real close you can't tell it's offset..and they shoot to POA.

60

[W.T.]

60, that's a beautiful job and an effective fix.

I believe that I need a good long session with the thing in a solid rest in order to be sure that it's not me shooting to the left, rather than the ASM sight.

I have a basic-type, elementary, ig'nert question:  how do you get the old blade out?  Heat?  Was it silver-soldered?

[1860]

WT,

It just taps out, a fairly sharp pc of brass and a small hammer will slide it out, front to rear.  When you install one, just peen the bottom of the sight with a sharp punch and press it in with vise-(I made leather wrapped hardwood blocks to keep from maring the bbl finish, couple fresh coats of ducktape will do the same thing). I also put a small amount of epoxy in the slot to make sure it does not come loose..

By all means, tie that thing down and make sure it's the gun..good luch with it..

60

[1860]

WT,

It just taps out, a fairly sharp pc of brass and a small hammer will slide it out, front to rear.  When you install one, just peen the bottom of the sight with a sharp punch and press it in with vise-(I made leather wrapped hardwood blocks to keep from maring the bbl finish, couple fresh coats of ducktape will do the same thing). I also put a small amount of epoxy in the slot to make sure it does not come loose..

By all means, tie that thing down and make sure it's the gun..good luch with it..

60