It sure is quiet around here

Ornery Orr · August 07, 2006, 06:44:25 PM

The buzzards ain't even squawkin'.

Wild Ben Raymond · August 08, 2006, 12:25:06 AM

Ornery Orr, you'll have to go to the chambers for that. Can't have any of that going on in the public forum for all to see. Wild Ben Raymond

Ornery Orr · August 08, 2006, 06:44:20 AM

They finally discovered I'm not an NCOWS member anymore. I can't get into the members only forum.

Kayleen · August 08, 2006, 07:05:52 AM

Tony,
There is always a calm before the storm. Hang on something is bound to break free for
all to chew on.
Kayleen

Ornery Orr · August 08, 2006, 07:29:41 AM

Yeah, but all the good stuff is always on the members only forum.

Silver Creek Slim · August 08, 2006, 09:47:05 AM

I can bring out my "Mighty Ten".

Slim

Wild Ben Raymond · August 08, 2006, 09:56:16 AM

Ornery Orr, You could always renew your membership

if you think it's worth it, just to get back into the chambers.

WBR

Ornery Orr · August 08, 2006, 05:49:05 PM

Quote from: slp on August 08, 2006, 09:56:16 AM
Ornery Orr, You could always renew your membership if you think it's worth it, just to get back into the chambers. WBR

And give the money to those clowns? NO WAY!

Now that I think of it, I need to get that sticker scraped off the window of my truck. I think I'll do that tonight. I need to get the one off of my NON-PC guncart also.

Ornery Orr · August 08, 2006, 05:50:51 PM

Quote from: Silver Creek Slim on August 08, 2006, 09:47:05 AM
I can bring out my "Mighty Ten".

Slim

That would sure get peoples attention!

Books OToole · August 08, 2006, 06:19:09 PM

Tony;

I'm just curious; If you have such contempt for NCOWS why do you come to the NCOWS forum, let alone post here?

I don't belong to SASS therefore I don't go the the SASS wire. I don't care what they do or say over there.

What am I missing?

Books

Ornery Orr · August 08, 2006, 07:30:40 PM

Quote from: Books OToole on August 08, 2006, 06:19:09 PM
Tony;

I'm just curious; If you have such contempt for NCOWS why do you come to the NCOWS forum, let alone post here?

I don't belong to SASS therefore I don't go the the SASS wire. I don't care what they do or say over there.

What am I missing?

Books

Last time I checked, this was a public forum. No need to be an NCOWS member here. I would love to get into a discussion on this subject with you, but isn't that what the members only forum was created for? So that potential new members don't see the mayhem and discontent? Why don't you just go back over to the members area and flap your wings with the rest of the buzzards.

Cuts Crooked · August 08, 2006, 09:41:52 PM

Double O,

You are trying to have it both ways. And you didn't answer the mans question........So.......what's your point? You don't like NCOWS and don't want to be a member. Great, that's your perogative! This is indeed a public forum but why do you seem to want to stir poop?

If I don't like something I don't take a bite of of it. If someone else happens to like it, I don't try to interfere with his pleasure by moaning about it. I happen to despize plastic gunz, but there are numerous net boards dedicated to them. I don't go there and stir up a stink just because I can.

Instead I go where my interests are!

Ornery Orr · August 08, 2006, 10:01:31 PM

Cuts, I don't know if it was your choice of words or the mood I'm currently in but your absolutely right.

I choose to not be an NCOWS member anymore for a variety of reasons. First and foremost is that as an NCOWS member (then) I wasn't presented with an opportunity to vote in the last election for congress members. Nobody was (unless you went). Secondly, I don't approve of holding "super secret" congress meetings and not notifying territorial senators in a timely manner and then kicking them out of their position because they didn't make it. These are dirty dealings and I don't want any part of them.

With that said, I'll be deleting my account here on CAS City. Happy trails.

Dr. Bob · August 08, 2006, 11:03:02 PM

Howdy,

With Ornery Orr gone, I would like to address his final post.

In 2005 there were only 5 candidates running for 5 Senate seats. The E Board discussed the situation and decided to save the money of mailing ballots with 5 candidates for 5 positions. I heard no rumors of anyone desiring to run a write in campaign. This is a garbage complaint that has no bearing on the outcome of the filling of the 5 Senate seats.

Regarding the officers, one Senator, Angie Kroemer [sp?] was replaced after missing more than one meeting without sending a proxie or excuse. Norm and Cindy Rollins sent in letters of resignation, prior to the 27th Congress meeting. It was their choice and not an action by the Congress expelling them. These are bogus complaints too.

I speak as a member who was at the 26th Congress meeting at Hooten old town and the 27th Congress in McGregor. Both of the Senators of my posse and my posse Representative received notification of the election and 3 NCOWS members put their name into consideration. The names were to the Secretary more than 30 days prior to the election and sent to all Congress memers 20 days prior to the election at Hooten. ALL CONGRESS MEMBERS KNEW ABOUT THIS ELECTION AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND OR SEND A PROXY!!

I have posted this to set the record straight. This is not intended as a slam/put down to anyone. It is just the truth.

Lone Gunman · August 08, 2006, 11:24:33 PM

Quote from: Dr. Bob on August 08, 2006, 11:03:02 PM

I have posted this to set the record straight. This is not intended as a slam/put down to anyone. It is just the truth.

Troublemaker! ...quit trying to confuse the issue by stating the truth.

Black River Smith · August 08, 2006, 11:44:34 PM

Dr. Bob,

Thank you, I was hoping that someone in-the-know and with the correct info would step up and address these comments. I truly think that certain people/groups are receiving biased info and being misinformed and it is an injustice to them.

Thank you LG for backing Dr. Bob's response. I trust your presence and meeting notes hold the truth also.

I witnessed the Nationals meeting along with several other members old and new. I am certain that if anything was incorrect someone would have stated a foul. Several absentee names and votes were called, so responses were returned, therefore early notification/requests where made. Whether club members were queried, well that is a matter you need to take up with your reps/leaders. Not the NCOWS overall process.

Cuts Crooked · August 09, 2006, 01:48:48 AM

Quote from: Ornery Orr on August 08, 2006, 10:01:31 PM
Cuts, I don't know if it was your choice of words or the mood I'm currently in but your absolutely right.

With that said, I'll be deleting my account here on CAS City. Happy trails.

Double O, I don't know if you will read these words or not, but it was not my intention to run you off from CAS City. There are a lot of places to visit here b'sides the NCOWS rooms. Please reconsider and reopen your account so you can participate in the fun places here. It isn't all NCOWS ya know! There are over thirty other places to visit here

Wymore Wrangler · August 09, 2006, 06:23:38 AM

Dr. Bob, you are incorrect with your last statement, Senators are elected by the open membership, not the Congress!!!! In the past, if a unexpired term has need to be filled, the candidate from the last election with the most votes has filled the position that was not elected previously. It also states that sixty days notification are needed before an election is held, and all members must be notified which they were not since the Shootist has been months behind in it's publication schedule, the general membership was unaware of this election.... If you don't think this is upsetting, why are so many folks resigning/not renewing their memberships....

Lone Gunman · August 09, 2006, 07:40:10 AM

Well...NO, Dr Bob is correct. This matter was handled properly and in the same manner it always has been:

QuoteArticles of Incorporation Section 5.03. As soon as possible after any vacancy occurs, the Board of Directors shall, at a regular or special meeting, elect a member to fill that vacancy.

Who is the Board of Directors:

QuoteSection 5.01. The business of the corporation shall be conducted by a Board of Directors called a Territorial Congress

In 2004 it was the Territorial Congress who voted to fill the remainder of Dirk White's Senate position with the person who finished 6th in the just concluded election.

In 2001 it was the Territorial Congress who elected Charlie Reynolds to fill the remainder of Dennis Kavenaugh's Senate position.

Accusations of improper procedure are simply unfounded, and in my opinion, very suspect in nature.

Quick Fire · August 09, 2006, 07:50:30 AM

Wymore, read this,

Section 5.03. As soon as possible after any vacancy occurs, the Board of Directors shall, at a regular or special meeting, elect a member to fill that vacancy.

and this,

Section 5.04. There shall be a nominating committee appointed by the Marshal (President) not later than thirty (30) days prior to the annual meeting, or whenever other elections are necessary.

The bylaw that you read about the 60 days refers to the annual election that NCOWS holds, not a special election.