Old West Words and Phrases

[Capt. Hamp Cox]

litl rooster's gonna have old Russ T green with envy , 'cuz his "hoolihan" answer is rite as rain.  Milt hinkle , in the September 1963 issue of Frontier Times described it as follows:

"...a backhanded loop, for roping in a corral off the ground.  Mostly used for catching horses, for a right handed man, the loop was held beside the left leg on the ground,brought around to the right above your head, and turned loose in such a manner as not to scare the stock."

Gonna need a bit more work on "Mormon iron", howsomever.  Usta be a song ana TV series with anuther name fer "Morman iron".

Still lookin' fer meanin' of bay coyote an' buck tie (ya gonna like thisun).

[Griff]

Mormon iron were the pistols used by their "Avenging Angels"; appointed gunmen and killers to deal with gentiles.

In Culiacan Mexico they call the coyotes that live in the offshore reeds "Bay Coyotes".

Buck Ties refers to larger than normal railroad ties that are extra wide and have train signals attached to them.

[Capt. Hamp Cox]

Thanks fer yore input, Griff.  Whut ya say mite also be keerect, but it ain't really whut I had in mind.

Mormon iron was a real common item in tha old west, and was sumthin from a animal.

Bay coyote mite a been a horse of a differnt color?  Think 'bout it.

Buck tie wernt no bow tie or 4inhand, but mighta caused a feller to feel all tied up. 

That help any? 

[Russ T Chambers]

Thanks fer yore input, Griff.  Whut ya say mite also be keerect, but it ain't really whut I had in mind.

Morman iron was a real common item in tha old west, and was sumthin from a animal.

Bay coyote mite a been a horse of a differnt color?  Think 'bout it.

Buck tie wernt no bow tie or 4inhand, but mighta caused a feller to feel all tied up. 

That help any? 

Sorry but we had our monthly match yesterday, and I didn't get here until just now.

Bay coyote    Dun horse with a Black stripe down his back

Gonna hafta think about the others.

[Capt. Hamp Cox]

Dang, Russ T, was startin' to worry ya mighta joined them ghost riders in tha sky.  Ya get the kewpie fer yur bay dun answer.  Spectin' more from ya shortly.

[Capt. Hamp Cox]

Still waitin' for some other brave soul to take a shot at:

Buck tie

and

Mormon iron

At least Griff wasn't 'fraid to try.

[Russ T Chambers]

Still waitin' for some other brave soul to take a shot at:

Buck tie

and

Mormon iron

At least Griff wasn't 'fraid to try.

I drawn' a blank on those two.  The only thing would be if Morman crickets are high in iron.  We have another good infestation startin' up out here in Nevada Territory. 

[Capt. Hamp Cox]

Seein' as how it just be the two of us, Russ T, I'll give you the answers - just don't tell no one else.

Mormon iron was another term for rawhide.

Buck tie  (Following is from the March 1964 issue of The West, True Stories of the Old West)

"The buck tie was very effective, and, if you doubt it, try it out on a friend.  This method of tying a prisoner in the Old West was simple.  The wrists would be lashed together, the hands and arms passed over the knees, and then a rifle would be shoved between the elbows and the knees.  The person so tied would be sitting down, and the harder he strained against the rifle and rope, the tighter they would get.  Few men ever broke loose."

Ever heard of a different term for that "restraint" method?

[Russ T Chambers]

I haven't heard of another term for it, but I think I've seen it used somewhere.     Just placed myself in the assumed position , and at my age, it would hurt just to be tied that way!

[Four-Eyed Buck]

Hogtied?.............Buck

[Russ T Chambers]

Hogtied?.............Buck

PETA would be after ya Buck, if'n ya tied a hog like that! 

[Russ T Chambers]

Let's try "Goose drownder"?

[Four-Eyed Buck]

 

[Capt. Hamp Cox]

That there goose drownder anything like a frog strangler?

[Four-Eyed Buck]

Now I know what a Frog Strangler is........Buck

[Silver Creek Slim]

What does Jasper mean? 

Slim

[Russ T Chambers]

Goose drownder is a heavy down pour, so I guess it might strangle a frog.

I think Jasper was a term for a somewhat errant cowpoke.

[Griff]

Jasper:  Don't know that errant would be the adjective I'd use, more likely to be eccentric, tho!  Smart-a__ed, joker, or other some such attitudinal thang.

[litl rooster]

I agree with Griff's latter statement on Jasper>>>> Smart-a__ed,joker....Refer to Lonesomedove

[Russ T Chambers]

Hey Capt.

Could Morman iron refer to rawhide?