EVER SEEN ONE OF THESE?

[Missouri Marshal]

Has anyone ever seen one of these?  It looks to be .36 CB.  Marks on topstrap "Savage R E A Co, Middletown CT"  It cocks the hammer and rotates the cylinder when you pull the ring next to the trigger.

[Four-Eyed Buck]

Has it got nipples, MM? From the configuration, almost looks like it could be a pin fire.......Buck

[El Paso Pete]

It's not a pin fire, it's percussion, notice the rammer. 

It kind of looks like one of them Parker Field gas-seal revolver made in the UK in the 1840's. 

I'll bet it could be worth some big money.

http://www.savageshooters.net/SavageForum/index.php

Go over and ask these fellers 'bout it.  It was not made by the Savage Arms we know 'cause that didn't start up till 1893 or so.  If there was another Savage, and it looks like there was, them Savage shooters may know 'bout it.

[Delmonico]

It's a Savage, made in the 1860's, but not the Savage Company that was started in 1895.  It got around some of the Colt patents by being different. 

It is commonly called a figure 8

[Dick Dastardly]

Ho the fire,

Cud be just my eye, no offense ment, but it's butt ugly.  If I were fightin' somebody with it, I'd hope they were unarmed and that I cud run fast.  I wonder if it ever cought on?

Anyway, it's a curious gun and probably worth some bux to the right collector.  I just have no taste for those things.  I only own "shooters".

DD-DLoS

[Forty Rod]

3rd or 4th model Savage Revolving Firearms Co., Navy Model. (Gotta argue with Del on this: Models by Savage and North, the company from which this company evolved, were "figure 8" pistols...this one is a bit different.)

.36 percussion, 6 shot, 7 1/2" octagon barrel, made during the Great Unpleasantness (1861-1866).  3rd models had brass frames, 4th were iron (can't tell from the pic which one this is).

Might be ugly but someone liked them. U. S. gov't bought 11,984 of them and the rest of 20,000+ were sold to civilians.

3rd model is worth $9,000 or more.  4th is in the $3,500 range.

[Missouri Marshal]

It belonged to my mother-in-law's father.  It's an iron frame, percussion, the nipples are on the side of the cylinder.  Rusted up pretty bad but everything still functions.  When you squeeze the ring below the trigger the cylinder moves rearward, rotates and then moves forward as the cylinder comes into battery.  It also cocks the hammer at the same time.  It might be ugly but it's pretty neat too.  Never scene one like it before or any that works like it.  To bad it's in such bad condition, bet it would be fun to shoot and it would definatly get ya some comments at a shoot.

[Dick Dastardly]

Ho Marshall,

No insult intended.  My eye has maybe gotten to used to the lines of the 1873 Colt.  Upon second look, . . .  it's still hard for me to appreciate.  Mayhaps my eye needs exposure to more diversity.  Probably if it were unearthed in my family I'd be thrilled with it.  Please don't be offended by my previous post.

Anyway, enjoy the old piece and if ya ever do sell it, may you get top dollar. 

DD-DLoS

[St. George]

It's a Savage Navy - most likely the Fourth Model.

A 'double-action - single action' revolver.

You pull the ring to the rear with the middle finger of your firing hand.
It will rotate the cylinder and cock the piece.

Return the ring to its forward position - take aim - and fire as one might expect.

Their issue was 'early Civil War - and they must've worked just fine, since they had a fat contract.

You'll see them more commonly on the East Coast because that's where the War was fought, and 'Back East' the prices are high.

In the Midwest - they're considerably less...

An interesting revolver - and fun to shoot.

I shot a nice one a couple of months ago and thanks to all that iron and small-diameter round ball - there's little noticeable recoil.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

[Missouri Marshal]

Ho Marshall,

No insult intended.  My eye has maybe gotten to used to the lines of the 1873 Colt.  Upon second look, . . .  it's still hard for me to appreciate.  Mayhaps my eye needs exposure to more diversity.  Probably if it were unearthed in my family I'd be thrilled with it.  Please don't be offended by my previous post.

Anyway, enjoy the old piece and if ya ever do sell it, may you get top dollar. 

DD-DLoS

No offense taken DD, it is an ugly gun but that and the way it operates is what makes it so neat.  Don't think I would ever sell it.  It was given to me by my mother-in-law and I look at it more as a custodialship cause she knows I'll do what I can to preserve it.

[El Paso Pete]

I can't remember ever seein an ugly gun, seen plenty ugly gun fighters, but no ugly guns. 

I'd never sell either and since they ain't makin any  more it's only goin up in value.

[Delmonico]

I t'was at work and runnin' on memory only.

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

No, but something nearly like it!

In a book by Clive. M. Law called CANADIAN MILITARY HANDGUNS, 1855 - 1985,  ISBN 0-88855-008-1 .

At page 19 there is a picture of Allen and Wheelock .44 cal., lipfire revolver s/n 150.  Apparently our government acquired thirty four of these, but there is no records associated with them, except a Quarterly Stores Return  dated 1 July, 1872.  Manufactured in 1868, they were probably acquired as an emergency measure during the Fenian raids of 1870. The book states that only 250 to 300 of these pistols were ever made.  The picture shows the same overal profile as the one pictured, but without the figure 8 lever arrangement.

[Forty Rod]

Speakin' of ugly gunfighters, did anyone take a good look at that avitar?

Lord love a duck!!!