W3G!

[D. R. Greysun]

Narry a word! Reckon knowboby thought to take a laptop with them?
D R

[Doc Shapiro]

Patience!  The match has been exhausting.  More will come...

Doc

[Vin Weasel]

Howdy Doc,
I have a silly question...what is Western 3 Gun?  Is it an offshoot of SASS or an entirely different group.  I've read a few posts about it, but can't seem to figure out exactly what it is. lol
Thanks in advance for straightening me out! 
Vin

[Onery Arlys]

from what i gather it is the Idpa or what ever they call them selfs of CAS.
one rifle, shotgun, one pistol,
is is for speed and acuracy, and money
sounds like fun , but i'm so slow i would always be last

[Ruff Justice]

Howdy Onery Arlys,

Nope 2 pistols. Same guns as CAS/SASS, different rules, targets are painted inbetween shooters, center knockouts for more points, a power factor and a few other things. You are allowed to more with a loaded cocked gun, finger out of the trigger.

Can't remember what else the difference are.

[Onery Arlys]

so two pistols and one rifle ? no shot gun?

[Doc Shapiro]

Shotgun too!  You need all 4 guns.  The "3 Gun" part of the name refers to 3 different types of guns.  Not 3 guns only.

It's quite a bit different from SASS/NCOWS style matches.  Scoring is done on the IPSC hit factor basis.  Points are earned by hitting targets.  More points for a center hit. 

Penalties for misses and procedurals are 10 points deducted. 

You can move while shooting, but you must maintain trigger discipline.  You can also move with a loaded gun and hammer back (includes shotgun), but you must maintain trigger and muzzle control.  Remove your finger from the trigger gaurd until ready to shoot.

Empty's left on the carrier or in the gun are a no call, and yes that means for SxS's too! 

You can reload and pick up misses, sometimes with a different gun.  I missed a pistol shot and picked it up later with the rifle on one of the stages.

Prizes reward performance, instead of delivered on a random basis.  The better you do, the better your prize!  There might even be cash handed out at future matches.

Stages are designed for action.  There will always be some that require movement in order to see and engage targets.  For example, you might get off 3 pistol shots and then have to move to see another target before firing the other 2.

This is a very high paced shooting game, with an accuracy component. 

For example.... (just using pistols as an example):
You blow through 10 shots in 5 seconds and don't hit any center.  That's 30 points/5 seconds or a hit factor of 6.  Or, you back off a little, shoot it in 8 seconds, and get all the center hits.  That's 50 points/8 seconds or a hit factor of 6.25.  That wins.

Hope this helps.

Doc

[Irish Red O'Toole]

Yep, Doc nailed it on the head.  W3G puts the "Action" and "Shooting" back in Cowboy Action Shooting.  I, too, picked up misses with another gun.  It was great.  Missed a two pistol hits.  Went to the other pistol and picked 'em up.  Then I ran to the next set of pistol targets.  Naturally, I ran dry on the second pistol, so I went to the rifle and finished the pistol targets off.  Then had to reload two to finish the rifle.  Try doing that at a regular monthly SASS match.

Adds a level of excitement.

BTW, Doc finished 13th this past weekend at W3G.  Pretty durn good, considering the talent level at the match!!

[Big Hext Finnigan]

Here's the question I've had for a bit..
Can you run this match without berms?
Could the targets be designed to reset from the line and not be painted between each shooter?

Adios,

[Doc Shapiro]

Hext, anything is possible.  Just might take some good old American ingenuity!

Doc

[Vin Weasel]

Howdy,
Is there a website to find out more about W3G?
Vin

[Doc Shapiro]

http://www.western3gun.com

Doc

[Vin Weasel]

Thanks Doc!
Vin

[Brazos Bucky Smith]

  Doc?

I note from some of your posts a move away from CAS.. You arn't thinking of giving it up are you?  That would indeed be a shame!

BB

[Doc Shapiro]

No not giving it up, just not giving it as much attention.  Western 3 Gun and Steel Challenge are getting some attention now.  Steel Challegne is a heck of a lot of fun, especially when shot with Cowboy guns!  I'm using my Vaqueros.  Though I did get my 1911 L10 (IPSC Limited 10) gun sighted in this morning and worked on one of the stages with it.  I'd like to get an open type gun to shoot this with too.

W3G has a lot more action than the CAS matches we've been shooting, and fewer safety rules.  It's a little more demanding and isn't for a new shooter, but isn't for an expert either!  It's a heck of a lot of fun.

Doc