Donner Party article: THEY DIDN'T DO IT!

[Ol Gabe]

Moderator, please move to whatever forum you feel this is best in, but the historical nature seemed to fit here best.
Best regards and good researching!
'Ol Gabe
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Scientists: Donner Family Not Cannibals
- By SCOTT SONNER, Associated Press Writer
Friday, January 13, 2006

(01-13) 06:44 PST Reno, Nev. (AP) --

There's no physical evidence that the family who gave the Donner Party its name had anything to do with the cannibalism the ill-fated pioneers have been associated with for a century and a half, two scientists said Thursday.

Cannibalism has been documented at the Sierra Nevada site where most of the Donner Party's 81 members were trapped during the brutal winter of 1846-47, but 21 people, including all the members of the George and Jacob Donner families, were stuck six miles away because a broken axle had delayed them.

No cooked human bones were found among the thousands of fragments of animal bones at that Alder Creek site, suggesting Donner family members did not resort to cannibalism, the archaeologists said at a conference of the Society for Historical Archaeology in Sacramento, Calif.

"The Donner family ended up getting the stigma basically because of the name," said Julie Schablitsky, one of the lead authors. "But of all the people, they were probably the least deserving of it."

The sawed and chopped animal bone fragments, recovered during an archaeological dig over the past three years, do suggest "extreme desperation and starvation," the study said. One of the animals eaten was a pet dog — presumably "Uno," mentioned in some of the children's later writings.

"The Donner Party's experience was bad, but it wasn't as bad as everybody's been told," said Schablitsky, a historical archaeologist at the University of Oregon's Museum of Natural and Cultural History.

The findings by Schablitsky and Kelly Dixon, an assistant professor of anthropology at the University of Montana, don't necessarily disprove the accounts of cannibalism told by rescuers and survivors stranded in a fierce winter storm in the mountains southwest of Reno and north of Truckee, Calif.

If cannibalism did occur at the Alder Creek site, in what is now the Tahoe National Forest, bones were not burned or boiled along with the flesh, the authors said. Such bones endure in the ground a very long time, while unburned or unboiled bones turn to dust in a relatively short time.

"We thought for sure based on all the accounts in the diaries and the relief journals and people's memories that among the other animal bones, we'd definitely find other human remains" at Alder Creek, Schablitsky said in a phone interview with The Associated Press. "So the most significant find is really what we didn't find."

Descendants of the Donner family say the findings bolster claims they have made for years — that cannibalism was not as rampant as portrayed in sensational contemporaneous newspaper accounts of the ordeal, which only about half the pioneers survived.

"We are thrilled and relieved," said Lochie Paige, the great-granddaughter of Eliza Donner, daughter of George Donner.

"Their findings, in my mind, completely exonerate her from having any part in cannibalism," she said from her California home Thursday.

G. Richard Scott, a bioarchaeologist who studies cannibalism in the Anthropology Department at the University of Nevada, Reno, is participating in the conference symposium this week but said he has not yet seen the papers presented by the two scientists. He suggested it was premature to draw any specific conclusions.

"We have looked at all the historical documents that allege this, that and the other (in regard to cannibalism) but we have reached no specific conclusions on just what happened at Alder Creek," he said in an e-mail Thursday night.

Dixon and Schablitsky led a team that found a campfire hearth at the Alder Creek site in the summer of 2004, establishing for the first time that part of the Donner Party spent that fateful winter there.

The main group, which primarily set out from Independence, Mo., spent the winter along what is now called Donner Lake, bordering Interstate 80 just west of Truckee.

The new research documents a menu at Alder Creek that included deer, rabbits and small rodents, along with the family's oxen and livestock.

The researchers also found lead shot, apparently cast at camp, that was of very poor quality. "So that may have accounted for some of their problems," Dixon said.


URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2006/01/12/national/a174130S00.DTL
©2006 Associated Press

[tarheel mac]

Yeah I saw that article..The main "bad guy" in the Donner story seems to have been a man named Lewis Keesburg...Upon hiis rescue, meat from a young boy was found to be cooking, while legs of frozen-to-death oxen were laying nearby.  Keesburg dismissed these as "Too dry eating.."  Now that is the "official" story...to be fair, it needs to be pointed out that for the rest of his life, Keesburg always vehemently denied that any of the above story was true...

[Russ T Chambers]

I read that article too, and found it probably fit what I've found out about the Donner party.  The incidents of cannibalism occurred at the (now Donner) lake, where the Donners were not camped, and on the trail of the party that went for help in Sacramento.  It was just that their name was attached to the entire group, and therefore everything has also had their name attached to it

Somehow, I still don't feel easy when someone in Dog Valley uses the phrase "I've got a bone to pick with ya'!"     

[dangerranger]

My wife is a decendant of the Reeds and Donner familys. they always said they were not that hungrey! just for her own family one year she [ my wife ] printed up a family cook book titled "Tastes like chicken a Donner Family Cookbook. " It was mostly well recieved.DR.

[Bristow Kid]

very interesting article

[Pukin Dog]

Dang it, another favorite myth busted!

And I had a great stage written where you had to throw the human arm bone through a barrel hoop after taking a bite out of it!  It just won't work as well with a ham bone

[GunClick Rick]

Sounds like another show for TEQUILA MAN!

[Trailrider]

Dang it, another favorite myth busted!

And I had a great stage written where you had to throw the human arm bone through a barrel hoop after taking a bite out of it!  It just won't work as well with a ham bone

As Alferd Packer is alleged to have said, "Meat's meat!"  (He was convicted of murder and cannabilism, but was later pardoned.  The biggest factor seemed to be that there were 5 "Demmycrats" in the county, an' he et four!  Now why would that have been a crime???        )