Cylinder bushing for Remingtons

Steel Horse Bailey · October 26, 2005, 10:00:45 AM

Howdy!

This is purely hypothetical. I have enough machinest experience to be dangerous, but what I'm proposing would be pretty easy for a machinest. I know that it would NOT be authentic, but could help shooters of Remingtons who want to shoot BP, but who haven't learned the knowledge that comes from experience regarding the use of lube and how much it takes to keep a Remington shooting. (Or even a Colt.)

Making a Colt style bushing would be a simple task as is boring the cylinder out enough for the bushing. The harder part would be relieving the frame enough for the bushing. It could be done with a file, but a machinest would be able to do it with a powered tool.

The point is this: would this (non-authentic) mod coupled with other mods (ie: grooving the cylinder pin to hold more lube) enable shooters to shoot their '58, '63, '75, & '90s longer with less problems when shooting their guns with BP?

Like I said, this is hypothetical. I think it would work and probably wouldn't cost that much if you had to pay a machinest to do it, and it certainly wouldn't cost much for those of you with the tools and experience to do it yourself.

Adios!

Sheriff A.E. Moses · October 26, 2005, 04:59:16 PM

I'd take two today for my '75 Remmies that get stubborn when it comes to shooting black.......good idea, now move forward with your ideas and decide what type of packaging you will use in the retail world!

Marshal Will Wingam · October 26, 2005, 09:13:20 PM

I'd really be interested if it could be done with my R&D cylinders.

Steel Horse Bailey · October 26, 2005, 11:39:23 PM

I actually believe I could do it, but I haven't the "technology" (read: tools) to get it done.

Steel Horse Bailey · October 30, 2005, 08:36:48 AM

No other opinions 'bout this mod?

Capt. Augustus · October 30, 2005, 01:00:48 PM

I've seen one done, I don't know what bushing he used, but it kept shooting for quite a few rounds.

Steel Horse Bailey · October 31, 2005, 01:21:57 AM

Even tho this idea came to me "out of the blue", I figgered that someone had prob'ly done it before.

Silver Creek Slim · November 04, 2005, 01:07:17 PM

I would think it would help.

Slim

Chance · December 15, 2005, 02:59:44 PM

If you check out the British Western Shooting Society website (just type BWSS into your search engine) you will find a solution there for fouling in the Remington.

Capt. Augustus · December 15, 2005, 03:08:06 PM

Here's the British website
http://www.thewilkinsons.karoo.net/bwss/info/antifoul.htm

Marshal Will Wingam · December 15, 2005, 03:54:06 PM

Thanks for the link, Capt. That looks to be a good solution.

Lars · December 15, 2005, 07:16:59 PM

The idea and the reality has been around at least since the late 1990s. Not often done, however. I never did get around to having it done to mine.

Lars

Arcey · December 15, 2005, 09:08:14 PM

Now I'm a l'il worried.

Bought a cheap Pietta clone last July. Probably ain't put much more'n a hundred thru it. Got too hot 'n humid out to mess with a Cap 'n Ball. Gettin' ready ta drag it back out now that the weathers nicer.

What I was doing was loadin' it then takin' the cylinder out to lube it. I included the base pin bore in the lubin'. Only problem I had was nobody told me the cylinder would go in one side and out the other. I normally shoot cartridge Colt clones 'n they don't do that. The Remington never even gave me a hint that it was gonna seize up.

Is there somethin' I should know about shootin' the thing in cooler weather?

Steel Horse Bailey · December 18, 2005, 06:01:38 PM

Good web site, Cpt. Augustus!

Arcey, I don't think there are too many surprises shooting C&B in cold weather. I know of some who put their powder flask in their pocket to keep the powder warm, but cold doesn't seem to affect BP as much as smokey-less. When I was younger and foolisher ... er, more foolish, my best pal and I went shooting (all kinds of stuff INCLUDING C&B) on a New Year's Day when the actual temp was - 10 F and the wind chill dropped it to about - 25 F ! We decided, after taking off our gloves to load for about the 3rd time, that we probably wouldn't do THAT again. That was about 30 years ago. We've done our traditional New Year's Day shoot many times since then, but never again in THAT cold!

Merry Christmas and have a Happy New Year, y'all!

Manyirons · January 30, 2006, 11:38:17 AM

RE: Bushing, local black powder smith here does this as part of the #1-Tune, Action-Work, Lapping-Barrel, Matching cylinder to bore dimensions, and bushing for long function.

Where else ya get a Remmie guaranteed to shoot into one hole at 25 and never choke?

Bull Schmitt · January 30, 2006, 06:19:49 PM

I wonder what the SASS "mods" committee would think of this type of modification? $:-\$ $:-\$

Steel Horse Bailey · February 02, 2006, 08:53:21 AM

Mr Scmitt, I'll bet it wouldn't be noticed, but TECHNICALLY it IS an outside mod. Since I posted this, I've been reading up on related things and this type of mod was (sort-of) done. However, I don't know, but I think that many of the original's barrels weren't straight in line with the pin, so it wasn't as much of a problem. I don't know for sure - I don't have an original to compare it to.

That British treatment was EXACTLY what I had in mind; just to a steel frame.

Bull Schmitt · February 02, 2006, 10:50:44 AM

Steel Horse,

WHOA!! Only my wife calls me Mr Schmitt!!

I pretty much agree with your conclusions.