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Started by King Medallion, April 08, 2021, 09:38:45 AM

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Abilene

If the binding is while you try to close the lever to push the cartridge into the chamber, then try pushing up on the carrier from the bottom while closing the lever to see if that is smoother.  If so, the carrier is not staying all the way up, usually due to insufficient tension from the carrier spring.
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Coffinmaker


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Normally, a '76 wouldn't be in my wheel house, but I did work on a few in the past, and a Toggle Link Rifle is a Toggle Link Rifle.

A bullet with an excessively wide nose will hang up on the Barrel Breach Face.  Anything even looking like a Semi-Wadcutter will hang up on the Barrel Breach Face.  It's a Tube Magazine feel rifle.  It will not play well without a firm crimp.  Bullets without a crimp groove are a waste of time.  They WILL turtle.

The "Double Feed" indicates your ammunition is too short.  The Nose of the round in the Carrier Block has to be long enough to hold the next round far enough in the Magazine for the Return Ramp to be able to push the next round back into the tube.

The tolerance between the "Knob" of the Carrier Block Arm and the Raceway in the Carrier Block is such, you will not be able to get much if any Epoxy to change the lift.  The lift can be changed slightly by CAREFULLY bending the Arm.

ALWAYS work on the cheapest part FIRST.

King Medallion

Thank you for the tip. Sounds like I have a bunch of single shot bullets.
King Medallion
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Slamfire

 Sorry I missed your OAL for your rounds???


coffee's ready ,, Hootmix.

greyhawk

Quote from: Slamfire on May 02, 2021, 01:13:43 PM
Sorry I missed your OAL for your rounds???


coffee's ready ,, Hootmix.

I'll agree with Coffin Maker ----double feed sez round too short  - forget the book specs and load to suit the rifle.

Using blackpowder?  yees? use enough powder compression to support the rounds from "turtling"

maybe forget the crimp groove and crimp into the top of the lube groove or just crimp wherever is best length for the gun

needs some crimp to turn the neck of the case in or else that will hang up on the chamber mouth .

My Uberti (45/75 rifle) has a quite noticeable chamfer on the chamber mouth

I cut some of my cases short and crimp into the top of the lube groove.

If I make em full chamber length and crimp over the ogive = use the powder column to support the boolit position - that works too

blackpowder makes life easy assembling rounds for lever guns.

I get your frustration!!!!!!!.


ndnchf

KM - Any updates on your problem? Enquiring minds want to.know  ;D
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King Medallion

Nothing yet, been bizzy.
King Medallion
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

King Medallion

Quote from: King Medallion on April 12, 2021, 09:40:40 AM
Just ordered my first mold, an Accurate 51-350CL, 2 cavity.

The mold finally arrived today! Vacation next week to Kentucky, then I will dive into this casting thing. I bought an old Lyman model 61 bottom pour pot at a gun show awhile ago, and got a Lyman 45 Colt mold too. And a bunch of lead. So now its a matter of finding that last ingredient, time.
King Medallion
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

pinto beans

Mr. King if you find a supply of that time ingredient let me know, I have run short of that most all my life and in retirement it is not to be found!! 

Seriously, good luck with it and keep us posted on the outcome.

P.B.

King Medallion

So, loading up a few of the Barnes 450 JFN, AOL is 2.25. Feed and function perfectly, so far. I got some 330g bullets from Montana Bullet works I'm going to try also, with BP. I got a set of CH4D dies now so I'm fiddling with the settings. I will be using the RCBS bullet seat die to crimp alone.
King Medallion
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

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