1892 Undress Tunic

Started by 1961MJS, December 23, 2020, 01:14:27 PM

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1961MJS

Hi
I purchased one of WPG's 1892 Undress tunics on Ebay.  It fits ok, and looks a little bit band uniform because of all the ropes on it.  It will be fine for the yearly dinner and was less than $250.00.  I'm tall with a long torso, and I think it's supposed to be sport coat short.

I do have a question, is the shirt you wear under it supposed to show?  I put on a banded shirt from the 1860's era and it doesn't look that bad, but is it authentic?

Thanks and Merry Xmas
Mike
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Brevet Lieutenant Colonel
Division of Oklahoma

cpt dan blodgett

great uniform pretty fancy for undress
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Robert Swartz

Quote from: 1961MJS on December 23, 2020, 01:14:27 PM


I do have a question, is the shirt you wear under it supposed to show?  I put on a banded shirt from the 1860's era and it doesn't look that bad, but is it authentic?

If you look at William Browns book on men's shirts. It appears versions of the banded collar shirt were around for a long time. Add a detachable collar and a cravat or tie to fancy it up a bit. Go out and socialize.
"Copperhead Bob"
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Drydock

The illustrations I have of these uniforms show a stand up collar being worn.  RIver Junction has these:  https://www.riverjunction.com/Your_Choice_of_Cloth_Collars_230.html

These illustrations show a good 1/2 inch+ of white collar above the band of the tunic.
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Pitspitr

Quote from: 1961MJS on December 23, 2020, 01:14:27 PM
I do have a question, is the shirt you wear under it supposed to show?  I put on a banded shirt from the 1860's era and it doesn't look that bad, but is it authentic?
Yes, there was even an issued button on linen standing collar.  Remind me at the muster and I'll show the reprint of regs with a line drawing
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Niederlander

Our dress blues had a button in white standing collar.  It makes sense, as you can change it out when it gets soiled.
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Considered as officers' "walking out" uniform, also on campaign.  Worn in similar situations as the "Service" uniform is today.
Brits referred to them as "patrol jackets".
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1961MJS

Hi
Next question, I ordered a set of Staff Officer Lieutenant Colonel boards for the above uniform, since I was ordering a few other items.  I have the 1899 WPG uniform with Artillery, Cavalry, and Infantry epaulets to clip on.  The clips seems to be in different places so I'm not sure the white ones will fit.  Does anyone in this august group use clips on their shoulder boards?  I'm considering getting the clips and the shoulder board put on at a tailor close to Tinker AFB.

Ummmm, Help
Later
Mike
BOSS #230

Brevet Lieutenant Colonel
Division of Oklahoma

1961MJS

Hi
Apparently, the shoulder boards are too thick for the sewing mahine so I may hand sew them.  I'm not sure what I'll do at this point.
Later
Mike
BOSS #230

Brevet Lieutenant Colonel
Division of Oklahoma

Pitspitr

I remain, Your Ob'd Servant,
Jerry M. "Pitspitr" Davenport
(Bvt.)Brigadier General Commanding,
Grand Army of the Frontier
BC/IT, Expert, Sharpshooter, Marksman, CC, SoM
NRA CRSO, RVWA IIT2; SASS ROI, ROII;
NRA Benefactor Life; AZSA Life; NCOWS Life

1961MJS

Hi
Does it hurt the shoulder boards to dry clean them or did you sew clips to the uniform and the boards?

I got my boards from C&C Sutlery in Idaho and the backing is really thick, but I have a leather punch to put holes in them with.  I don't want to blow a lot of time and $ in a jacket I'll wear for 3 hours once a year.

Thanks
Mike
Mike
BOSS #230

Brevet Lieutenant Colonel
Division of Oklahoma

Pitspitr

Quote from: 1961MJS on May 24, 2021, 10:42:36 PM
Hi
Does it hurt the shoulder boards to dry clean them or did you sew clips to the uniform and the boards?
I wash the only blouse I have that has shoulder boards and I can't see where I've hurt them.
I remain, Your Ob'd Servant,
Jerry M. "Pitspitr" Davenport
(Bvt.)Brigadier General Commanding,
Grand Army of the Frontier
BC/IT, Expert, Sharpshooter, Marksman, CC, SoM
NRA CRSO, RVWA IIT2; SASS ROI, ROII;
NRA Benefactor Life; AZSA Life; NCOWS Life

Robert Swartz

Quote from: 1961MJS on May 24, 2021, 10:42:36 PM
Hi
Does it hurt the shoulder boards to dry clean them or did you sew clips to the uniform and the boards?

I got my boards from C&C Sutlery in Idaho and the backing is really thick, but I have a leather punch to put holes in them with.  I don't want to blow a lot of time and $ in a jacket I'll wear for 3 hours once a year.

Thanks
Mike

......if you don't get your wool clothing that filthy. My wife bought one of those home dry cleaning kits. You put the clothing in a bag and tumble them in the dryer on recommended settings. I do this and it rids them of the sweat and smells.
"Copperhead Bob"
GAF# 892
Sgt Maj (ret) 2nd KY Vols 1812 era
Lt (ret) Rogers Rangers F&I
Booshway 2021Thundercreek Rendevous

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