German Krag?

[Tascosa Joe]

I was watching a rerun of Hogan's Hero's last night.  I swear Schultz was caring a Krag.   

[Silver Creek Slim]

Yep. Try to find a Mauser rifle on Hogan's Heroes.

Slim

[Professor Marvel]

yup, a krag.

whilst it is claimed elsewhere since approx 30,000 Danish Krag-Jorgensens ( the issue rifle there) were taken from Daneland Denmark by German forces and were shipped into Germany, it has been suggested that ther is a remote possibility that 3rd tier guards might get one.

However,  the actual constant screw-ups by the prop guys on Hogans heros suggest otherwise. Not to mention ammunition logistical nightmares. Oh, and actual history.

For example, early on the Germans were seen armed with painted replica Thompson M1928's , and when they finally got some MP40's many were plastic mockups that
looked "ok" from 20 feet. And browning machine guns were regularly used in towers and on vehicles. And 1903 Springfields were used to fill out the Stalag Armory rifle rack.

In 1965 it was "just a TV show" and nobody cared.
Just like all the Cowboy Movies where they were carrying Winchester 1892's thru-out 1870 and 1880 periods.

thanks for playing!

prof mumbles

[Coffinmaker]

Professor Marvel ...

Watch Mean Willis ......... The Duke was seen carrying a '92 in his movies set just post 1865.  Very versatile rifle that!!  Even used to imitate a Henry many many many many times.

Restricting the '92 to the time frame(s) of 1870 - 1880 just isn't fair to a rifle obviously seen from 1865 onwards to impart restrictions based on Facts.  "Alternative Facts" more bedder!!

[Major E A Sterner]

The reason for Schultz (John Banner) carrying a Krag is because he was Jewish and only agreed to do the part as long as he didn't have to carry any nazi weapons, I saw this recently in an old interview with the remaining members of the cast.

[Galen]

I have heard the story why John Banner carried a Krag rifle and not a K98 while starring on Hogan's Heros many times. Mr Banner during his acting career portrayed German military types in several movies. In these movies he was armed with the correct weapons, in fact in the movie 36 Hours  Banner is armed with a K98. Near the end Banner uses the K98 to shoot a man.

[The Pathfinder]

Hey, the 1892 actually came out one early 1840's as well as SAA. Watch Comancheros with Duke and Stewart Whitman, it's set in the nine year period after Texas won it's independence and when it became a state, 1836-1845.

[1961MJS]

I just can't  believe you'd refer to Sergeant Schultz, a guard from a Luftwaffe Prisoner of war camp crom which no POW escaped, a THIRD TIER guard.  You should be ashamed.

Later

[Drydock]

I see nothing . . .

[Guns Garrett]

Off topic, somewhat, but does concern "Krags in film/TV":

In the John Wayne movie "McClintock!", a scene late in the film shows a crate of Krag carbines being dumped on the ground (ouch!) out of a boxcar (thanks, Bunny!).  Several times throughout the film it is mentioned their Territory will "soon become a State", and I have always wondered what State the town of McClintock was in, and the time frame.  The movie was filmes outside Tucson.  Army is shown still wearing blue uniforms (I know, it's Hollywood), so I'm thinking 1890's-1900 Oklahoma.  Wyoming and Idaho became States in 1890... too early for Krags.  SW Oklahoma and New Mexico were both part of the Comanches' range, and Oklahoma became a State in 1907, but  New Mexico not until 1912... McClintock warns new sodbusters of the dangers of ranching on the "Mesa Verde", which sounds like NM...There is mention of sending the "renegade Comanches" to Fort Sill, but never specify if that is in a different Territory.

I also notice that the "Swede" gunsmith from "El Dorado" becomes a Cavalry Sergeant in this film, and later turns up at a picnic in Seattle in "North to Alaska".