NWMP Mountie Portrayal

Started by Sergeant Klondike, July 23, 2017, 05:11:27 PM

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Sergeant Klondike

Thanks Ed

I hope your having as much fun putting yours together as I did with mine. 
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Baltimore Ed

Something that I realized the other day is that your RCMP Stetson is slightly different than my DI Stetson. Other than the obvious color the dimples are 45 degrees different, my ridges are square to the front, back, L,R while your hats dimples are square to the front back. Something the average cowboy wouldn't even notice unless we were standing next to each other. I might have to invest in still another hat???
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Quote from: Baltimore Ed on November 04, 2017, 08:07:54 AM
Something that I realized the other day is that your RCMP Stetson is slightly different than my DI Stetson. Other than the obvious color the dimples are 45 degrees different, my ridges are square to the front, back, L,R while your hats dimples are square to the front back. Something the average cowboy wouldn't even notice unless we were standing next to each other. I might have to invest in still another hat???

Sgt Klondike's stetson is a true copy.  But, you are right, the average U.S. cowboy probably wouldn't know the difference having never seen one in real life. other than in the movies.

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Jist an observation here, only...
Awhile back someone posted old pics of the Gold Rush late in a former century, don't recall if they were in Canada or Alaska Territory. At any rate, in the pic of a town plumb full of guys with gear, almost to a man they were wearing the Mountie-style hat, must have become instantly popular and available overnight at the local haberdashery!
Hopefully someone will recall the pic and repost it here.
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Sergeant Klondike

Quote from: Baltimore Ed on November 04, 2017, 08:07:54 AM
Something that I realized the other day is that your RCMP Stetson is slightly different than my DI Stetson. Other than the obvious color the dimples are 45 degrees different, my ridges are square to the front, back, L,R while your hats dimples are square to the front back. Something the average cowboy wouldn't even notice unless we were standing next to each other. I might have to invest in still another hat???

Ed, I think your hat has a crease similar to the Montana Peak style. 
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Sergeant Klondike

Quote from: Buffalo Creek Law Dog on November 04, 2017, 09:34:41 AM
Sgt Klondike's stetson is a true copy.  But, you are right, the average U.S. cowboy probably wouldn't know the difference having never seen one in real life. other than in the movies.

Cheers!

During my uniform gathering adventure, I was fortunate to locate a new/old inventory RCMP issued hat and hatband.  The sweatband has the maker and RCMP markings.  It was made by Biltmore-Canada on October 1997. 





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For those wondering what GRC means, it's French for RCMP ...Gendarmerie royal du Canada
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PJ Hardtack

I'm pretty sure that "Rattlesnake Jack" posted some pics on this topic a few days back. Where did they go?
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PJ Hardtack

Yes. I was looking on the wrong forum.
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Buffalo Creek Law Dog

Yesterday I watched the enhanced DVD version of "Gene Autry and the Mounties".  BS story but enjoyable nevertheless.  The "Mounties" were wearing 1950 uniforms while being RNWMP (1904-1920).  In one of the shoot outs a Sgt was actually using the NWMP carbine.  Another Sgt had no service stars.  The story line took place in western Canada however most the bad guys were French Canadians, touques, sashes, broken English, etc.

You are probably wondering how Gene Autry got into this story.  He was a U.S. Marshall from Montana, he and his deputy played by Pat Buttrum (sic) following the trail of bad guys into Canada.  They, together with the "Mounties" rounded them up.

Bruce Carruthers, an ex RCMP member who played a background Mountie in the movie, was the technical adviser.  He tried to keep the Mounties as authentic as Hollywood would allow him.  The salute was correct, palm facing forward.

Just as an side note:  Bruce Carruthers was technical adviser on several of Hollywood's Mountie movies during the late 40's and into the 50's.  In Pierre Burton's book, "The Americanization of Canada" by Hollywood, it stated that Bruce had an uphill battle with the directors trying to keep the Mountie image correct.
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Quote from: Buffalo Creek Law Dog on November 25, 2017, 09:02:22 AM
In Pierre Burton's book, "The Americanization of Canada" by Hollywood, it stated that Bruce had an uphill battle with the directors trying to keep the Mountie image correct.

The key word in the above is "image". That is what the rcmp suffers from greatly at the moment.

In addition to making up arbitrary gun laws that are almost impossible to keep track of and follow, the list of women signed up in the class action lawsuit for sexual harrassment in the force has risen to 11,000!

This is why you don't see many Canadians anxious to portray NWMP/rcmp impressions in CAS. We'd be fearful some lady would charge us for inappropriate conduct - :>)
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Sergeant Klondike

Picked up a nice pair of RNWMP collar dogs.

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During the reign of Edward VII or George V.  Is it full size or a lapel pin?  I have a copy in lapel pin size.
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Sergeant Klondike

Quote from: Buffalo Creek Law Dog on December 22, 2017, 09:41:26 AM
During the reign of Edward VII or George V.  Is it full size or a lapel pin?  I have a copy in lapel pin size.

They're full size. 
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