Remington Autoloading Gun

[Silver Creek Slim]

A Zoot shotgun followed me home from the toy store yesterday. A Remington Autoloading Gun made in 1910, which is a pre-Model 11. Disassembled, cleaned and reassembled it last night. Shot it during my morning walk. This is my first self-loading shotgun. 

Slim

[Scattered Thumbs]

Well! If it isn't the old 1903 Browning auto-5 design(of 1898). That's the very same gun that caused the divorce between JMB and Winchester. When the folks at Winchester told JMB they wanted the rights of the design but weren't going to produce it because they had recently released the 1897 pump and thought it would kill it's sales.

JMB sold the rights to FN of Belgium and  later Remington got licensed from FN to produce it the US.

Great buy Slim!  

[Silver Creek Slim]

Well! If it isn't the old 1903 Browning auto-5 design(of 1898). That's the very same gun that caused the divorce between JMB and Winchester. When the folks at Winchester told JMB they wanted the rights of the design but weren't going to produce it because they had recently released the 1897 pump and thought it would kill it's sales.

JMB sold the rights to FN of Belgium and  later Remington got licensed from FN to produce it the US.

Great buy Slim!  

Yes.
It was the first auto loading shotgun made in the USA.

Slim

[Scattered Thumbs]

You could have had it since 1900, if it wasn't for Winchester greedy little fingers.

Winchester woke up after the Remington move. In 1911 they marketed their own self loader, but had to work around JMB's patents.  

[Silver Creek Slim]

Remington made this shotgun for 43 years.

Slim

[Scattered Thumbs]

Remington made this shotgun for 43 years.

Slim

It's a very sound design. After all JMB was a genius.

[Bat 2919]

You could have had it since 1900, if it wasn't for Winchester greedy little fingers.

Winchester woke up after the Remington move. In 1911 they marketed their own self loader, but had to work around JMB's patents.  

Ah yes, the Winchester Widowmaker

[Scattered Thumbs]

Yep. That explains the 14 year production run of the thing.

[Silver Creek Slim]

Here is a pic of the Remington.

Slim

[Scattered Thumbs]

Looks in great shape for a 110 year old hunting gun.
Ya done good.

[Niederlander]

Back when I shot trap regularly I used an old Remington 11.  Great gun!  I think it cost me a whopping $150 back then..........

[Bat 2919]

The Model 11 and Auto 5 are both in heavy demand for Zoot matches.   Most of them have had the barrels cut back to the length of their aftermarket extended magazine tubes.  My 11 is tricked out in just this fashion.

Clyde Barrow was famous for cutting his guns down, everything from shotguns to Browning Automatic Rifle's stolen from National Guard Armories.  Lawmen and criminals were some of the first people to make combat modifications to their firearms.  AZSA encourages these sorts of historical correct (within modern legal limits of course) modifications to match guns.

[Bat 2919]

As a sidelight the Whitehouse.gov petition to repeal the National Firearms Act of 1934 now has enough signatures to move it forward.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/sign-whitehouse-gov-petition-to-repeal-nfa/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=20170210_FridayDigest_108g&utm_campaign=/blog/sign-whitehouse-gov-petition-to-repeal-nfa/

[Silver Creek Slim]

Back when I shot trap regularly I used an old Remington 11.  Great gun!  I think it cost me a whopping $150 back then..........

I paid $175 + tax. 

Slim

[Niederlander]

Very cool!  I don't think the Remington 11 has ever gotten the popularity it deserved compared to the Browning Auto-5.  Everyone seems to think it's a lesser version or something.  Remington always built really good stuff, and the Model 11 was no exception.  Enjoy that thing!

[Forty Rod]

Ah yes, the Winchester Widowmaker

AKA the "chest buster."