Uberti has changed lever/trigger safety spring

[Cliff Fendley]

Working on a new rifle and Uberti has changed lever/trigger safety spring to a coil aftermarket type.

[Abilene]

Saw one like that earlier this year - it's about time!

[Cliff Fendley]

They've changed the mainspring profile too. It's narrowed. Just needs a little thinning and polish and it's ready to roll.

Everything was already pretty smoothed up in this rifle too, I didn't have to do a whole lot to it compared to some. I'm going to shoot this thing tomorrow and see how she runs but she feels good.

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[Coffinmaker]

VERY VERY Timely.  Uberti has always been quiet to respond to the needs of their customers   

Coffinmaker

[kwilliams1876]

next time i consider another uberti product i guess i need to look inside first. i myself hate coil springs in a reproduction of 19th century firearms. coils are a cheap production alternative to skilled artisans who can massage and tune a flat spring into a slick thing of beauty. i just see it as another concession to lower costs and a diversion from authenticity, its just me thinking this way. i actually love spending time at my bench deburring, reworking/polishing flat springs.  not every one who shoots these "vintage" firearms wants a race gun.

anyways to each their own, its all fun in the end.  minus 24f this morn. so nothing to do but bloviate!

[Cliff Fendley]

Well she's slick as snot and didn't take much work getting it there. Very light action and will still pop CCI, Winchester primers reliably. Shot it yesterday and it never missed a lick.

I've got another new one apart now. I would expect this one to had better attention since it's a Cimarron custom order but the other one was an off the shelf Cimarron.

Uberti has really stepped up except the Uberti gorilla put this one together. The other one wasn't even that bad to get apart the first time but this one had me cussing. Still a little because I bent a Magna-tip bit trying to get the lever spring screw out and still wound up having to clamp the spring to get it apart.

[Cliff Fendley]

next time i consider another uberti product i guess i need to look inside first. i myself hate coil springs in a reproduction of 19th century firearms. coils are a cheap production alternative to skilled artisans who can massage and tune a flat spring into a slick thing of beauty. i just see it as another concession to lower costs and a diversion from authenticity, its just me thinking this way. i actually love spending time at my bench deburring, reworking/polishing flat springs.  not every one who shoots these "vintage" firearms wants a race gun.

anyways to each their own, its all fun in the end.  minus 24f this morn. so nothing to do but bloviate!

I don't think the change to coil on the lever safety is for cost reasons. If anything I would think it would cost more. However it is more user friendly and more reliable. I have seen two flat springs broken disabling the lever safety (sort of) but never seen a coil one fail.

[Coffinmaker]

OK.  I'll Play.

There were NEVER skilled artisans at Colt, Remington, etc., nor at Winchester or any other manufacturer in the 19th century.  Those springs were made heavy and "over sprung"  cause it was the only way to make em reliable.

The only artisans who tuned flat springs to a thing of beauty have been the few Gunsmiths who taught themselves "spring craft."  There are also those home hobbiest(s) with time on their hands where the "cost" is of no concern.

It the cost of making the coil spring, the plunger and the passageway far exceeds the cost of stamping and tempering flat springs.  The reason current manufacturers (excepting Colt and now defunct USFA) have gone to coils springs is reliability.  Coil springs simply last much longer than flat springs, whether OEM or Tuned.

HOWEVER:  I do well understand your preference to be seated at a work bench in a cozy warm place, piddling with your guns as opposed to taking out the trash when it's 24 degrees.  You see, yesterday, I spent the entire afternoon in the shop, re-shaping screws and recutting the slots just to make something I personally like better than OEM.  It was a toasty 11 degrees yesterday.  Making screws beat lots of other options.

Coffinmaker

[Trailrider]

An interesting thing is that E. Remington & Sons used a coil spring in the first 100 or so over-and-under derringers to cause the oscillating firing pin to shift from one barrel to the other.  After that, however, they switched to a v-spring and used that clear through the last models made in 1935!