Blackhorn 209 availability and non corrosive?

[Virginia Gentleman]

I am looking to try this as a black powder substitute, is it really non corrosive and is it compatible to use in .45 Colt and .38 Special?

[Coffinmaker]

I don't know the specific answers, as I have not used this "propellant."  Anything with the listed components of this propellant will be corrosive.  I don't know the degree of corrosion one might expect.  Beyond this >>>>

Blackhorn 209 is NOT LEGAL for use in SASS/CAS.  It is Nitrocellulose based with additives to make it .... smoke.  I have personally never bothered with it.  Blackhorn cannot be used for SASS/CAS so I saw no reason to mess with it.

Coffinmaker

[Ranch 13]

If they list loads for those cartridges it will work in them.
I have shot quite a bit of it in 45-70. Cleaning the cases is almost mandatory, and don't use a water based solvent to clean the gun.
Magnum primers will be your friend with the stuff.

[Virginia Gentleman]

Does it burn like black powder or does it generate pressures like smokeless which would be not good to use in black powder era guns?

[Ranch 13]

It like the other so called subs it generates a good bit more pressure than real black.
Go to Accurates web page and look up the blackhorn data, they list the pressures along with velocity etc.

[Coffinmaker]

As noted by Ranch 13, this propellant will generate more pressure for a given amount than will BP or other subs.  Also, since it is NitroCellulose Based, the pressure spikes will closely align with a pure smokeless powder.

Based on literature available, and direct conversations with a few who have actually used it, it seems BlackHorn 209 is in answer to questions no one ever asked.  It also, from all indications, fills a niche that actually doesn't exist.  The stuff makes about as much sense as developing a really high tech cork.  Before inventing the bottle.

Coffinmaker

[ira scott]

Blackhorn 209 has become my propellant of choice in modern inline muzzleloaders. It does not build up the dreaded "crud ring" that 777 did right at the chamber. As far as corrosive. I don't know because I usually swab between shots during range sessions, and clean immediately when finished. Definitely more pressure/power than volumetric  equivalent of 777, APP or real B.P. I don't really think it would be too good in cowboy guns, for one thing, it's damn expensive. The last container I bought this fall at Cabelas still has the price tag on it- $39.99-for 10 OZ! I personally am really liking the APP FFF for the times I use a B.P substitute.

[Ranch 13]

Went here to look at the 45 colt and 38 sp, data, the loads they list keep the pressure at or below bp levels.

http://www.blackhorn209.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/b209blackpowdercartridgedata.pdf