Rossi 92 .357 loads

[Hylander7]

So I will soon pick up a 92 Rossi in 357
Looking for a good place to start using 158 RN and Win. 231
Also have Power Pistol
Thanks

[mehavey]

What Reloading manuals do you currently have ?

[Hylander7]

What Reloading manuals do you currently have ?

LEE, Lyman 49, Lyman Cast, Speer #9, Hornady fifth, Thompson Center, Sierra from 1976,

Instead of starting from book scratch, I was hoping to see what is working well for you guys.

[Scattered Thumbs]

So I will soon pick up a 92 Rossi in 357
Looking for a good place to start using 158 RN and Win. 231
Also have Power Pistol
Thanks

158 round nose??

Better stick to flat points.

[mehavey]

I've not used 231 in the 357 (as I've put in the too-fast category); and haven't tried PowerPistol (though I probably should).

But if you want to know what finally worked well ....





postscript: 2400/13.5gr worked well too.
(Note 1 to self: try PP, as QuickLoad says it ought to be a candidate)
(Note 2 to self: stick with W231/HP-38 for Plain Base)

[Hylander7]

Scattered Thumbs: RN because I have a lot.
Why stick to FP, accuracy, better feeding ?


mehavey:
Thanks, that's what "I'm looking for.

I loaded up some 158's with 9.8 and 10.0 PP, won't be able to try them for a couple of weeks.

[JohnsonBarr]

Tubular magazine guns should always be loaded with Flat Nose bullets to prevent cartridge detonation in the magazine. Think about it; round nose against the primer of the next cartridge, against the next cartridge, and so on. If nothing else think about the people standing next to you when your rifle comes apart. For reliable chambering stick with round nose flat point cast bullets.

[mehavey]

Sorry, but I should have remembered this 357Mag/W231 load for my 1873.
It exactly duplicates the BlackHills loading -- which was/is a tackdriver.

[Scattered Thumbs]

Scattered Thumbs: RN because I have a lot.
Why stick to FP, accuracy, better feeding ?


mehavey:
Thanks, that's what "I'm looking for.

I loaded up some 158's with 9.8 and 10.0 PP, won't be able to try them for a couple of weeks.

What JonhsonBarr said.

[Hylander7]

Tubular magazine guns should always be loaded with Flat Nose bullets to prevent cartridge detonation in the magazine. Think about it; round nose against the primer of the next cartridge, against the next cartridge, and so on. If nothing else think about the people standing next to you when your rifle comes apart. For reliable chambering stick with round nose flat point cast bullets.

Understand, but wasn't the original cartridges RN ?
Also most factory 30-30 ammo is round nose and used in a tube magazine.

[wildman1]

Round nose ammo is never manufactured for use in a lever rifle. What people do with it may not be what it was intended for. You can and will set a primer off by pressing against it without actually denting the primer. I load brass shotgun shells and set one off last week by being a little to aggressive seating it. It was a large pistol primer and not a Federal. You only have to do it once. wM1
PS; most of the 30-30 ammo I've seen is RNFP, ROUND NOSE FLAT POINT.

[mehavey]

While a standard 38Special RN in a tube wouldn't keep me up at
night, these guys seem to think RN's in some pretty hefty cartridges
are not abnormal.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/382697/hornady-interlock-bullets-30-30-winchester-308-diameter-150-grain-round-nose-box-of-100

Thoughts?




postscript: Personally, I make a habit out of SWCs, RNFPs, and TCs
when loadinginto tubular magazines

[wildman1]

I did not see where that is for a lever rifle. wM1

[Johnny McCrae]

Since 2007 I've been using a 147 Grain Truncated Cone 9mm Bullet in my Uberti 1866 Yellow Boy. They are sized to .357". This bullet makes for a longer OAL using standard .38 special cases. It is also used in one of our club guns which is a Marlin 1994 CBC. It has been trouble free.

These bullets ae available from SNS Casting www.snscasting.com

[Abilene]

Understand, but wasn't the original cartridges RN ?
Also most factory 30-30 ammo is round nose and used in a tube magazine.

No, original ammo was, at least for Winchesters, flat nose.  Starting with the Henry (and the '66 which shot the same ammo), the round was called the Henry Flat.  It was a rimfire round, but the "Flat" referred to the flat nose.  When the 44-40 came out for the '73, it too was also flat nose.

Regarding the 30-30, keep in mind that the bottlenecked cartridge is tapered such that the tip of the bullet is not pushing against the primer.

Original

[w44wcf]

Plenty of round nosed and flat nosed bullets have been used in the .30-30 factory cartridges over the years...even full patched round nosed as the below pic shows.

As Abilene indicated, that is because the .30-30 is a bottle neck and the cartridges do not line up in the magazine with the bullet nose resting directly on the primer of the cartridge in front of it. If one lays two .30-30 cartridges on a table, nose to tail, one will see that.

Now straight walled cartridges are another matter entirely, especially if there is recoil. Flat nosed bullets are always best in a tubular magazine. No doubt, many have used round nosed bullets and gotten away with it but it only takes once to ruin your day. 



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