Uberti 1860 Used pricing?

Abilene · February 03, 2016, 12:58:43 AM

Quote from: Fox Creek Kid on February 02, 2016, 11:48:34 PM

Far fewer lever actions today are chambered in 44-40 than .45 Colt & .38 Spcl. I'd imagine Abilene would confirm this.

True for most models, but for the Henry in particular, 44wcf is pretty popular. My WAG would be 40% 44's.

Major 2 · February 03, 2016, 01:15:11 AM

Here in the Gunshine state, 99% of the shows are 95% black guns & cheap camo clothing, Crap knives ETC.
frankly I've quit going. One exception is the Melbourne Winter show when the snow birds come down with guns of our style interest.
Thou the prices sport pay for our trip markups...
One the other hand, a Henry may pop up from and ex-reenactor, I haven't seen $750 in years , but $850 on rare occasions.
The Odd Cowboy shooter, getting out you may see a 66 or 73 surface in the 900 to $995.00 range.
JM Marlin 1894's will fetch $850 and higher.

Assuming the OP, added the BG check, sales tax, Cook County, Ill. hoop jumping fees and his fuel/time... I'd say his $1200
Price is in the ball park , him buying locally...

I linked to a Gun on GB @ Current Bid $850.00 with 18 hours to go and just 1 bid so far...
Figure shipping, FFL fee and Hoop jumping the OP might come in under the cap on the gun he can examine in hand.
You pays your chance and you take same ...

My Henry's are in both 44/40 & 45 Colt ( yes, I said Henry's ) and if I could get 44 Russian I be on that too.
Both 45's see some blow by darkening the case side about 50-60% of the sides, but negotiable amount in the chamber.
I'd expect about the same with 44 Russian w/ BP
The 44/40's see more BP than the 45's for that reason...

If I were a Henry buying first timer... and not a reloader ... 6 in one 1/2 dozen to the other.
Re-loader with existing one or the other, in like cal. I probably match up what I had.... (quoting Coffin Maker "Keep it Simple" principle also applies. If the rest of your toys are 45s. Make your new toy a 45.....

Other millage may vary.... happy hunting, and when you spring, shout back and I'll add your name to the Henry Roster.

chrispy · February 03, 2016, 05:19:59 AM

I picked 45 for mine, solely for the ability to purchase commercial ammo. Just about every shop will have a box of 45LC somewhere on the shelf, but I've never seen 44-40 for sale locally.

Fredd · February 03, 2016, 02:19:10 PM

When I first looked at the 44/40 or .45colt question I was advised upfront about the 44/40 being more historically accurate. I was a very active reloader at the time and what won me over to .45colt was that I could have a carbide sizing die with it's straight wall. That and I already owned one .45colt revolver so for me it was easy to stay with the .45colt

As for the used price, I have seen them 850 to 950 before but if all I could find was a 1200 dollar used one I would look seriously at a brand shiny new one.

Major 2 · February 03, 2016, 02:55:24 PM

Someone didn't know beans...

"44/40 being more historically accurate"

only thing accurate is the 44 number ...44 Henry that is....

The Henry was never chambered in 44/40 or 45 Colt, in fact both arrived in 1873
The 73 Winchester was in 44/40 never in 45 Colt.

I'd agree with shiny new part "if" he didn't have all the Peoples Republic of Illinois, taxes, and other skims running NIB to over $1400 clams....

Cholla Hill Tirador · February 03, 2016, 03:41:55 PM

Quote from: Fredd on February 03, 2016, 02:19:10 PM
When I first looked at the 44/40 or .45colt question I was advised upfront about the 44/40 being more historically accurate. I was a very active reloader at the time and what won me over to .45colt was that I could have a carbide sizing die with it's straight wall. That and I already owned one .45colt revolver so for me it was easy to stay with the .45colt

As for the used price, I have seen them 850 to 950 before but if all I could find was a 1200 dollar used one I would look seriously at a brand shiny new one.

That is exactly why I had initially decided on a 45 Colt. I wound up with a 44-40 instead and have found that the perceived problems with loading the 44-40 have been blown way out of proportion. ...at least in my experience. Not being able to load using carbide dies was at the very top "why not to" list, but after having loaded close 500 rounds now, I find it no big deal at all. About half the time I don't size at all just pop the primer and bell the mouth. When I do size I only size the neck so as not to repeatedly push the shoulder back. If you think about this process, only sizing the neck, which is straight, is no different than sizing a straight wall case and requires very little lube. As an aside, wouldn't it be nice if one of the die manufacturers would make 32-20, 38-40 and 44-40 dies with a carbide insert for sizing the necks of these cartridges?

CHT

Fredd · February 04, 2016, 09:53:59 AM

Quote from: Major 2 on February 03, 2016, 02:55:24 PM
Someone didn't know beans...

"44/40 being more historically accurate"

only thing accurate is the 44 number ...44 Henry that is....

The Henry was never chambered in 44/40 or 45 Colt, in fact both arrived in 1873
The 73 Winchester was in 44/40 never in 45 Colt.

I'd agree with shiny new part "if" he didn't have all the Peoples Republic of Illinois, taxes, and other skims running NIB to over $1400 clams....

OUCH!
Actually both history and beans were well known. I will have to say that I miss spoke if you thought I meant to say the 44-40 was offered in the Henry or the 1866. I am well aware that the 44 Henry was the cambering for the Henry and the 1866.

I was thinking of the 1873 which was never offered in .45colt. 44-40 being offered in both pistols and rifles helped make it the go to cartridge of the day. .45colt was the military round but also earned a civilian following. Being the military round also helped it pass the years where the 44-40 pretty much dropped out of sight for a while.
Woody

Major 2 · February 04, 2016, 11:42:52 AM

I mean the person(s) that advised you

"I was advised upfront about the 44/40 being more historically accurate."

I meant no stone cast at you.

Coffinmaker · February 04, 2016, 02:14:48 PM

There I was, innocently reading along, sipping my coffee and almost gulped the whole durn CUP.

Couldn't believe a someone told a someone who may have told another someone the 44-40 was more historically correct for a Henry.
Then I read some more and realized all is actually well. Scary that was. Whoa.

I currently shoot 4 (yep four) Henry rifles. One stock Martial Rifle in 45 Colt. One 19 1/4" Barrel Custom Carbine shooting C45S. One 18 1/2" Barrel Uberti Carbine shooting C45S. One 16 1/4" Barrel Trapper, shooting C45S. All the C45S Rifles exhibit some blow-by. Not excessive blow-by, but more than a 44-40, still livable. The stock rifle shooting 44-40 Brass exhibits very little blow-by. While I do
have to scrub up the Carrier Block on .45 Rifles, I don't find it to be a real bother.

Find a Henry Rifle you like and can afford (rob a bank??) and buy it. Then take it out and play with it as often as you can. Simple.

Coffinmaker

Driftwood Johnson · February 21, 2016, 06:29:38 PM

Howdy

Hope I'm not too late.

Check Dixie Gunworks. They periodically run discounts on certain rifles. Right now, a 45 Colt brass framed Henry is going for $1175. That is brand new and the normal price is $1425. They also have a 44-40 brass framed Henry on sale for $1125, down from $1425, and an Iron Framed 44-40 Henry for $1325, down from $1425.

I bought my Iron Framed 44-40 Henry from Dixie a bunch of years ago for $800 on sale by about $200.

You will have to have it shipped to your FFL, but these are deals that Dixie offers until the supply runs out.

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/default.php?cPath=22_92_184&osCsid=u6tc1neuald27n6m5vhekho2h2

Fox Creek Kid · February 22, 2016, 02:40:01 AM

My first Henry was purchased in the Spring of 1982 for the then dealer cost of $440 from Allen Arms. That was a lot of money then as well.

Major 2 · February 22, 2016, 06:25:19 AM

Quote from: Fox Creek Kid on February 22, 2016, 02:40:01 AM
My first Henry was purchased in the Spring of 1982 for the then dealer cost of $440 from Allen Arms. That was a lot of money then as well.

since we have gone there...

My first in the Summer of 1980 , from Navy Arms 44/40 $385 which included , shipping, tax and 10%, to The Littlest Gun Shop ( my friendly FFL holder at the time )
I sold the gun in 88 for $500 ( when my daughter was born ) needed the funds.
I bought it back in 2008 for same $500 , with the idea to add a Kings Patent loading gate, never got around to it.
By then I had two others... then acquired an H011 in 2013...

Sold the old NA again for $700 ....but the guy never paid in full ,

So....as they say
"If you love something set it free.
If it comes back to you its yours.
If not, it was never meant to be."

It is still mine