Uberti Richards 44 sights

[Mike]

Spent some tiime with this gun as i want to use it as my main gun. I have had it a year or two shot TB and BP with it with 44 colt 44 Russian and 44 sp cases and some cut down 44 mag case at .88 inch.
i load a 215 round nose and a 205 grn.
With all the above now shooting straight up and down but a foot high at 25yds
The front sight is hardly visable above the rear of the barrel so i cant cut the hammer notch down any and i dont want a front sight that stands up like a flag pole.
If i make a new breech ring with a type one rear sight i belive it will make it shoot even higher.
What i have not tried is a 245grn bullet as yet.
It gust frustrates the hell out of me when Ubetyi make these guns and they dont work out of the box. This gun has had a action job which hsd the hand cleaned of burrs the bolt fitted to the bolt stops so the cylinder lock properly and I had to fit the barrel to the cylinder pin to get to shoot straight up and down, as out of the box it was high and left of the target at 25yds.
Any ideas

[Blair]

Sounds like it is time for a new, taller front sight.
My best,
Blair

[Mike]

I have not done the calculation yet but that is the only solution. I want to put the type one ring on the gun but the front sight is going to be huge.
The gu n is a 50m gun not a 10m steel ringer. I have to aim at the bottom not in the guts.

[Long Johns Wolf]

If you use a lighter bullet like 180 grains over a hotter load you will have a flatter trajecory, i.e. lower the POI.
The higher front sight on my custom converted R2 does not look too bad?!
With my CAS load of 200 grainers over nitro POA equals POI.
Long Johns Wolf

[Coffinmaker]

Well Schucks Mike,

What a bummer.  I had the same problem with mine before I sold em.  Gets the old "measure it with a micrometer, Mark it with Chalk, and
cut it with a Chainsaw."  As shown by LJW's gun (he has such swell toys), a taller front sight really won't look at all bad. 

For primarily hunting those wily and vicious steels, I personally settled on a really nice 160Gr RNFP bullet with a full case of APP.  Real nice load.  Had to add a taller front sight to both guns.  Used tapered model P sights from Cimarron, then whittled them down to a POA/POI match, then re-blued.  Although, one could, after removing the old sight, put the new sight in with JB Weld and let it sit overnight.  I have had very good results doing that too.

Coffinmaker

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Generally, POI is lower with a lighter projectile. Adding powder ups the MV, but also ups jump due to recoil. The result is that adding powder is cancelled out.

Adding weight to the bullet adds to jump without appreciably changing other factors. Heavier bullet, higher strike. lighter bullet, lower strike.

At 25 yards, the difference in POI may not be enough, so in this case a higher frontsight is called for. Then, with the load and bullet you prefer, carry out the filling down of the frontsight CAREFULLY!

[Mike]

So why dont they put it on at the factory.
Twenty years ago i use to by the unfinished guns and when finished by me the gun action worked, the sight were correct.
I buy a new finished gun and I have to do the same amount of work to get it shooting.
Dont add up for me.
Will have to find a nickle silver spoon or fork and cut a new sight. 

[Long Johns Wolf]

With due respect Sir Charles: the hotter load might add to the muzzle jump ... but the lighter bullet will have left the barrel before the muzzle jump will have affected its POI ... which is not the case with the heavier bullet.
Long Johns Wolf

[Fox Creek Kid]

So why dont they put it on at the factory...

The originals were like that. Were you expecting fiber optic sights & high capacity mags on a 19th century revolver? A horse with 4x4?     

[Mike]

I wanted a gun to point and shoot
The AR does so does the 73 all three of them.
it easy to take metal off but to knock that sight out and make a new one is a pain.

[Fox Creek Kid]

I wanted a gun to point and shoot
The AR does so does the 73 all three of them.
it easy to take metal off but to knock that sight out and make a new one is a pain.

Make one out of a brass key blank.