If Guy Fawkes had succeeded?

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Here is a link to that bbc project, to see what would have happened if Guy Fawkes had not been caught.  Records in the Tower of London show a receipt for 36 fifty pound casks of powder removed from the undercroft  (basement) beneath the parliament.  The King, dignitaries, Lords, and members of Parliament were sheduled to gather there within hours.  The lot would have been blown to heaven  (or hell, depending on whether you were catholic or protestant!)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=57-BJmeh9y0

[Dakota Widowmaker]

36 barrels of black powder is ALOT of explosives... thats 1800 pounds which is enough to do ALOT of damage.
(provided it acts like an explosive all at once and not a propellant)

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

The "King" was a crash test dummy, somewhat like the original.  "His" head was found several hundred yards away.  The entire replica building was cleaned right out.

In short, it BLEW!  Guy Fawkes was a military engineer for the catholic armies, and knew his business.

[Capt Clancey Mitarwan]

I believe Patton said that there was no problem that couldn't be solved by a suitable application of (high) explosives.

It is amazing what they were willing to risk for their ideas, knowing the wretched fate that would await traitors if caught.

[Paladin UK]

Very big sigh here pards!!   

Yep!! Old GF sure had the right idea!!   

Shame one person too many got ta know 

Mind you iffn he got caught today he`d a been given a really really good tellin off n got hisownself 30hrs community service!!

Paladin (What thinks old GF had right idea  ) UK

[Steel Horse Bailey]

Watch out, Pal UK - ya don't wanna get cornered by the "Un-British Activities Committee" do ya !!?!!

Community Service and all ... 


Besides - she's a sweet ol' gal! 


And since nothing constructive would happen later, think of all the wasted BP you and yer pards could shoot instead! 

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Pal UK & SHB

The shows producers asked themselves the same question.  If the plot had succeeded, their prediction would be a widespread "Pogrom" against Catholics.  As it was, it took 300 more years before Catholics had most of the restrictions against themselves removed.

The religious wars of Europe had an important effect on politics in America.  Having an "established" religion means that the other religions and sects are excluded.  The framers of your constitution wisely decided that religion & politics had to be separate.

IN GOD WE TRUST but worship somewhere else.

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Now that Guy Fawkes day 2008 is less than 3 weeks away, and the US presidential election only days later, the question of religion and running a country are still up for debate!

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Time to go to Youtube and watch it again!

Please to remember the 5th of November, the GUNPOWDER Treason Plot
I see no reason why gunpowder treason should ever be forgot!

[Dick Dastardly]

So, where is the most promising location to begin tunneling under Obama?  I'll be happy to dig some, lift a little and provide some black powder.

Let 'er rip!

DD-DLoS

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

I didn't know that Obama was secretly a Catholic?

[Dick Dastardly]

It would be interesting to see just how far a 67 year old lumberjack could dig with a rusty spade.  Of course, it's the will that matters.  I will remain free.

DD-DLoS

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

BTT;  For those who havn't seen what 1800 pounds of gunpowder could have done to the House of Parliament.

And, here is the link to my related thread;

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,11955.0.html

[Southpaw]

I'd dig it if I had to with a spoon......Southpaw

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Back around again.  Guy Fawkes Day 2013.

This issue is still alive, but with different names/characters/religion etc.  In the current news I see that Dearborn MI is reportedly accepting Sharia law, and the Congress is being challenged for hold prayers at the opening ceremony. 

I say that separation of church and state means that while there should not be an established state religion, acknowledgment of God and giving thanks does not offend that principal.  Using a religion based legal system offends it to the core.

Sorry for the rant, but it is less serious than a ton of gunpowder going off.

[Blackpowder Burn]

Put a wall around DC, lock all the politicians and bureaucrats inside, and burn it to the ground.

Check this out:   www.conventionofstates.com

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Check out breaking news re; Million Mask March!

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Please to Remember....

The Fifth of November....

[Grenadier]

One of me dear ole mates in Blighty once said "Guy Fawkes, the last man to enter Parliament with honorable intentions!"

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

For those keen on history; and a role play of a successful plot.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/civil_war_revolution/gunpowder_hutton_01.shtml