Colt paper rounds

[smokin6]

Just something from back in the day.

[vmathes]

Very cool.  I wonder what the velocity was, with a 138 grn slug and only 13 grains of powder?  I have a little booklet from DGW on loading paper ctgs for the percussion revolvers, and really favor this method. 

[Gus Walker]

  Dixie gun works is sellin paper cartidges check out the price fer 6......
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=xa2610&x=-112&y=-375

[Major 2]

Just $3.32 each round  , seems the paper cartridge ammo shortage has reach a frenzy in supply & demand....

[Fox Creek Kid]

Just $3.32 each round  , seems the paper cartridge ammo shortage has reach a frenzy in supply & demand....

Boy Howdy!!    Nonetheless, it'd be cool to have a packet for photo ops.

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

Make your own cartridges;

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=144094

There was a fellow on THR making replica cartridge packs, for &10.95, but he sold out very quickly.
if you look around there may be patterns in our back pages.

Because of a bad experience in trying to load paper cartridges in the rain, I live on the WET coast, I now use .357 mag and .45Colt empties to hold powder with the ball pressed on top, as quickloaders

[Oregon Bill]

I'll tell you what -- I'd sure love to have that bullet mold!

[LonesomePigeon]

Old post but I was wondering what cera wax is? I believe cera is Spanish for wax but a search also turned up several bees wax products. It would be neat to know for sure what they were using back then.

[Coffinmaker]

OK!!  Paper rounds ..............
Fast Forward >> to today.  Think M1A1 Abrams TANK.  120MM or almost 5 inches.  That's the same size as a Navy Destroyer (WW II)
Cannon.  Anyway ...........
The round as loaded is a couple feet long.  After firing, all that kicks out of the breach is an ash tray.  I don't think it's over 3 inches tall.
Turret ring doesn't fill with big fired cases.  The rest of the round combusts with the propellant.  Really KOOL!!  Would make really nifty "one time use" "main gun" ammo for rifles and handguns.

Coffinmaker

[Blair]

WOW, pretty interesting statement, Coffinmaker.
Which begs me to ask, how much Naval Rifle gun firing experience do you have?
I can only speak from my Naval experiences which are just over 40 years old. Not as new as the M1A1 type ammo but 20 to 30 years newer than WWII Naval Rifles. We can start with 3 inch cal. and go up from there if you wish.
My best,
Blair

[Coffinmaker]

Hi Blair!!  Happy Monday 

Actual "Hands On" Naval Gun experience ..... ZERO.  Have sat thru several WWII era training films (War Dept) that showed the Twin 5" mount common on the old DDs.  Same turret and gun mount as used as a rapid firing AA application on the old Aircraft Carriers and
AA crusers.  Used a casing similar to a really large rifle round.  Spit the fired casing out the back of the turret.

Today's Main Battle Tanks are some kind of AWSOME.  I partook of some incredible history in the Middle East.  It's simply amazing to see
what the gun in a Main Battle Tank can do to Anything.  With the modern gun laying hardware, also an incredible anti-aircraft gun.  Scary good.

Coffinmaker 

[Blair]

There were some rather short cartridge cases used. None that I know of in the Naval Rifles.
First would be the 76mm Pack Howitzer, mostly used by land forces.
Then there are a 5 " round used for launching Torpedoes from their tubs, and a 3 " used for launching "K" and "J" type depth charges from ships decks.
I'm not sure any of these would fall in to the "ash tray" size with out being cut down. I have seen a good many brass cases within the 3 and 5 " cal, cut down for this usage.
My best,
Blair