Approved/ Not Approved List

[olered]

For some reason I cannot access the above lists. I am wondering if the Cimarron Lightning revolvers are approved or not for NCOWS.
Sorry, not trying to be lazy just cannot access the lists.
Thanks

[bushwhacker]

The Cimarron Lighting is on the Non Approved lost. 
Bushwhacker. NCOWS Judge

[olered]

The Cimarron Lighting is on the Non Approved lost. 
Bushwhacker. NCOWS Judge

Thanks.

[Pitspitr]

For some reason I cannot access the above lists.

They don't seem to work for me either.

[Major 2]

As of July 15 2015  Doesn't fix the issue you may be having , but at least you have it here 

Approved Cartridge Firearms
Revolvers, Reproductions
SAA 1873 Colt clones by EMF, Navy Arms, Cimarron, Uberti, Armi San Marco, EAA , and Beretta.
Colt Bisley models distributed by EMF, Navy Arms, and Cimarron.
Colt 1873 Target models distributed by Navy Arms
Colt 1872 Open Top Models distributed by EMF, Cimarron, and Navy Arms.
Conversion Models distributed by Cimarron, Navy Arms, & others.
Ruger Full-size Vaquero and new Ruger Vaquero
Remington 1875 and 1890 SA manufactured by Armi San Marco, Beretta, & Uberti.
Schofield revolvers made by Uberti, Armi San Marco, and Smith & Wesson.
Conversion cylinders by Kirst and R&D
Colt Thuer Conversion Cylinder replica by GB Enterprises
Taurus Gaucho, and Colt Cowboy
Colt models 1889, 1892,1894,1895,1896,1901,1903, and Colt New Police
Webley revolvers with Birds-head or Banana grips eg. (MK1, MK2, MK4, MK5)
Model 3 Russian by Uberti, Navy Arms
Beretta Laramie by Uberti, Beretta
455 Webley Service Revolvers: Mark I, Mark II, Mark III, Mark IV, and Mark V. (Model VI is not
approved.)
Other Webley Revovlers: R.I.C. (Royal Irish Constabulary), M.P.(Metropolitan Police), #1 1/2, #2, #4
(Webley-Pryse),#5 Express, Mark II Pocket, Improved Government (Patterns I, II, and III), Webley
Government (including W.G., W.G. Army, and W.G. Target)
Other British Revolvers: any pre-1900 design by makers such as Adams, Kerr, Tranter, Enfield Mark I
& II .455/.476 service revolver
Rogers & Spencer, and reproductions, and conversions of same
Pocket Pistol
Any approved hand gun with 4 inch barrel or shorter; any approved pistol caliber.

Rifles, Reproductions
Winchester Models 1860, 1866, 1873, 1886, and 1892 manufactured by Armi San Marco, Uberti, and others
Winchester '94s if they retain the physical characteristics and appearance of 1894 models manufactured prior to
1899, in approved cartridges.
Marlin '94 and '95s if they retain the same appearance as the originals prior to 1899, and as long as they are chambered
in approved calibers/cartridges and safe in operation.
Colt Lighting models by Tri-Star, the Taurus Thunderbolt and US Firearms Lightning clone and Beretta Gold
Rush Carbine
Spencer, all models
Sharps by Pedersoli, Armscor, and others
Remington Rolling Blocks Winchester 1885 High and Low Wall
Ballard, all models
Springfield 1873 Trapdoor, all models
Remington Hepburn models
Marlin 1894CB in 32H&R Magnum
Taylor & Companies "73" in 32H&R
Taylor & Companies "66" in 32H&R
Peabody Rifles produced by Providence Tool Company
1876 Winchester replicas, made by Uberti and Chaparral Arms
Shotguns, Reproductions
Winchester 1897 pumps by Norinco and Tri-Star
Side-by-Side/Double Barrels: approved models are too numerous to list here.
Winchester 1887 lever-action 12 ga.
IAC 1887 replica lever-action shotgun
IAC 1893 replica pump shotgun
Single trigger/ double-barreled shotguns
Top-lever break single shot shotguns that retain the characteristics of pre-1899 originals

Derringer Reproductions
Chiappa Double Eagle
EIG
Rohm 17
Western Arms
Excam TA38
FIE D38
Uberti/IAR 38 Special/357 (small frame)

[Major 2]

Not Approved List

Revolvers
Ruger Vaquero Bisley (as of the first Territorial Congress of 2006.)
Ruger .32 H&R
Cimarron Lightning
Cimarron Thunderer
Cimarron Model P Jr.
"P" frames with Birds-head grip
"Pinkerton"-grip firearms
Uberti '73 SAA with cap and ball cylinders
Ruger Old Army cap and ball
Navy Arms Scout and similar small framed revolvers
Non-birds head or non-banana gripped Webleys'
Colt Police Positive
455 Webley Service Revolvers: Mark VI
Other Webley Revolvers: W.S. model
Cimarron "Eliminator" series of revolvers (Added July 2015)
Rifles

Winchester '94 with angle eject
Henry Big Boy and all other side eject models
Modern lever-action rifles in current production equipped with angle eject, ramped front sight.
H&R Buffalo Classic
Beretta Renegade (an 1873 w/factory installed short stroke)
Winchester 1873 made by Miroku
Shotguns
Modern shotguns with vent ribs
Modern recoil pads ( no white line spacers).

Derringers
Bond Arms Texas Defender
Bond Arms Cowboy Defender
Cobra Enterprises, all models
American Derringer, all models
Uberti Maverick large frame 357 Mag and 45 Colt
Gun Modifications:

Not allowed are the following:
Short-stroke modifications to lever-action rifles/shotguns.
Short stroke kits for revolvers
Lightning rods or similar devises
Aluminum carriers for toggle link rifles.

Holsters: No belt holster shall be lined with metal, plastic, or any non-leather material to make it easier to extract or reholster
revolver. Cloth Lining shall be acceptable. No holster shall be lower than the leading, forward edge of the trigger
guard in the trigger area and no lower than the midpoint of the trigger guard over the cylinder or at the leading edge of the
holster. Holster shall be attached to belt by a loop over the entire belt, i.e., no slotted belt (buscadero rigs). No holster may
be tied to the leg.

Clothing and Accouterments: A very diverse range of apparel and accouterments existed within the time period of
1865-1899. Much has been written detailing the items worn and used during this time. The individual must research all
items to ensure authenticity. Period photographs used to authenticate dress should be dated in order to eliminate confusion
as to whether the item is correct.

Not allowed are the following: any modern Western-style boot with stitching on the toe; modern-style vests; snapbutton
shirts or modern-style Western shirts; modern jeans that have not been altered to conform to historic styling;
Buscadero (slotted belt) gun rigs; modern "fast-draw" holsters; slide-on shotgun shell holders (effective as of the first
Territorial Congress of 2006); modern-style cowboy hats, unless altered to an authentic style; modern Western trophy- style
belt buckles. Loading strips are not allowed on the firing line but may be used at the loading area. Shotgun cartridge belts
must have individual loop

[Cliff Fendley]

Not Approved List

No holster shall be lower than the leading, forward edge of the trigger guard in the trigger area and no lower than the midpoint of the trigger guard over the cylinder or at the leading edge of the
holster.

This is an area in which I think should be better enforced. I see holsters like this even at the National shoot.

[bushwhacker]

Then you should have spoke up at the nationals.  Mike

[Montana Slim]

Regarding unapproved items...

I find self-policing and an offer of one-on-one "advice" are low-key techniques & some may need a more "official" reminder to review how their gear stacks up. I reviewed mine via photos and some video continually as a new member back..well....some few years ago....and I still seek member's advise:-) I recall staying home during the Nationals on my first year of membership, as my PC boots were on back-order.

One only need to review photos and videos from an event to get a feel for how we're accomplishing our goals. I make no specific references to the past National..or two or three back, as I did not attend..or for that matter scrutinize photos...and I'm not finger-pointing..unless its at my green handled shovel from 2010....which "Books" kindly hid for me.

Generally, I've been keen to recognize and "borrow" good ideas from other individuals to continually improve (I hope) my own experience....and that is my main concentration.


Slim

[bushwhacker]

Slim,  I agree with you.  I feel NCOWS is a constant learning experience.  As for your shovel I'd Books got it good luck.  Bushwhacker