March 6, 1836

Started by Pancho Peacemaker, March 01, 2009, 07:31:10 AM

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Shotgun Franklin

Some times, as I grow older, I grieve that there are no more 'Alamos' to defend. I now find myself taking up a fallen torch and taking the best stand I can against an oppressive government. Maybe I'll find a new 'Alamo' to defend.
Yes, I do have more facial hair now.

dusty texian

On this sacred day ,Remember the Alamo,Remember Goliad,Remember San Jacinto.God Bless the Men, and God Bless Texas.......Dusty Texian.

Six Gun Saint

None of my friends remember, or care to know, it seems.  No news outlet, radio or TV, has said a word.

It saddens me greatly.

*I* will Remember this day, and what it means, and what it stands for.

As the fella above me said, God Bless Those Men!

Heh, and if this apathy in MY state continues (not about the Alamo, but about EVERYTHING, really...), they may all go to Hell, and I will go to Texas!   ;)  I've got family out that way anyhoo...
The above may or may not be influenced by medications and/or alcohol...  (i.e. don't blame me if it's bad spelling/incoherent)
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Shotgun Franklin

Here's an old first hand account. I'm posting the whole time as I got it.

REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!
On this 6th day of March  in 1836...
...the Alamo garrison fell, and the fortress that had been a mission became a shrine.
Francisco Antonio Ruiz was the Acalde (mayor) of San Antonio. He was an eyewitness to the events of that day.
Twenty-four years later, in 1860, Don Poncho (as Ruiz was known), recounted what he had seen for the Texas Almanac.
Below is his account in full.
Remember the Alamo!
Mark Pusateri
Copano Bay Press

PS - Don Poncho's father, Don Francisco Ruiz, signed the Texas Declaration of Independence four days before the Alamo fell.
Fall of the Alamo, and Massacre of Travis and His Brave Associates
by Francisco Antonio Ruiz
Translated by J. A. Quintero

On the 6th of March at 3 a.m. General Santa Anna at the head of 4000 men, advanced against the Alamo. The infantry, artillery and cavalry had formed about 1000 varas from the walls of said fortress.

The Mexican army charged and were twice repulsed by the deadly fire of Travis' artillery, which resembled a constant thunder. At the third charge the Toluca battalion commenced to scale the walls and suffered severely. Out of 800 men, only 130 were left alive.

When the Mexican army had succeeded in entering the walls, I with Political Chief (Jefe Politico) Don Ramon Musquiz, and other members of the corporation, accompanied the curate Don Refugio de la Garza, who, by Santa Anna's orders had assembled during the night, at a temporary fortification erected in Potrero Street, with the object of attending the wounded.

As soon as the storming commenced, we crossed the bridge on Commerce Street with this object in view, and about 100 yards from the same a party of Mexican dragoons fired upon us and compelled us to fall back on the river to the place occupied before.

Half an hour had elapsed when Santa Anna sent one of his aides with an order for us to come before him. He directed me to call upon some of the neighbors to come with carts to carry the dead to the cemetery, and also to accompany him, as he was desirous to have Colonels Travis, Bowie and Crockett shown to him.

On the north battery of the fortress lay the lifeless body of Colonel Travis on the gun carriage shot only in the forehead.

Toward the west in a small fort opposite the city we found the body of Colonel Crockett.

Colonel Bowie was found dead in his bed in one of the rooms of the south side.

Santa Anna, after the Mexicans were taken out, ordered wood to be brought to burn the bodies of the Texans. He sent a company of dragoons with me to bring wood and dry branches from the neighboring forests.

About 3 o'clock in the afternoon of the next day they commenced laying wood and dry branches upon which a file of dead bodies were placed, more wood was piled on them and another file brought, and in this manner all were arranged in layers. Kindling wood was distributed through the pile and at 8 o'clock it was lighted.

The dead Mexicans of Santa Anna's army were taken to the graveyard, but not having sufficient room for them, I ordered some of them to be thrown in the river, which was done on the same day. Santa Anna's loss estimated at 1600 men. These were the flower of his army.

The gallantry of the few Texans who defended the Alamo was really wondered at by the Mexican army. Even the generals were astonished at their vigorous resistance, and how dearly the victory had been bought.

The generals who, under Santa Anna, participated in the storming of the Alamo were Juan Amador, Castrillion Ramirez and Asesma Andrade.

The men burned numbered 182. I was an eye witness, for as Alcalde of San Antonio, I was with some of the neighbors collecting the dead bodies and placing them on the funeral pyre.

(Signed) Francisco Antonio Ruiz
Yes, I do have more facial hair now.

dusty texian

God Bless the men that fell at the Alamo,in the name of freedom. Never Forget  Remember the Alamo!,,,,,,,Dusty Texian

Texas Lawdog

The guy who did not who Travis and we're was not a Texan nor had he studied Texas history. When John Wayne's version of "The Alamo" came out, I was in the 7thgrade. We studied Texas history in class and got to go to the movie and see the film. The Alamo is a special to Texans, It is part of the birth of Texas. It is also special to members of the Masonic fraternity, because Masons died at the Alamo, as well as Goliad. Sam Houston, also a Mason, led the Texans in defeating Santa Ana at the Battle of San Jacinto.
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Will Ketchum

Sana Ana was also a Mason and supposedly used the sign of distress causing Houston to spare his life.

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Texas Lawdog

I have heard that too, but I cannot see how he could honor his obligation by shedding the blood of brother Masons.
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Mean Bob Mean

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Will Ketchum

Quote from: Texas Lawdog on March 06, 2014, 02:45:39 PM
I have heard that too, but I cannot see how he could honor his obligation by shedding the blood of brother Masons.

I am sure there are Masons on both sides of many wars.  One cannot help shed the blood of another mason if he is your country's enemy.  My obligation to my country and my Lord takes precedent over my 3 Masonic obligations.  The oath I took to protect our Constitution has no expiration date.

When you were a LEO you couldn't ask a perp if he was a Mason if he was shooting at you. ;)

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Mean Bob Mean

Quote from: Will Ketchum on March 06, 2014, 08:28:03 PM
When you were a LEO you couldn't ask a perp if he was a Mason if he was shooting at you. ;)

You should, and if he stops excitedly to reply, blow him away. 
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Texas Lawdog

You are comparing apples to oranges. Santa Ana gave orders to put the defenders at the Alamo to death as well as Fannin and his men at Goliad.
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Mean Bob Mean

Quote from: Texas Lawdog on March 10, 2014, 11:32:25 AM
You are comparing apples to oranges. Santa Ana gave orders to put the defenders at the Alamo to death as well as Fannin and his men at Goliad.

Santa Ana was an idiot and got everything he deserved at San Jacinto. 
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Major 2

Quote from: Books OToole on March 08, 2010, 11:57:53 AM
Jamison was the engineer responsible for fortifying the Alamo.
He said;  if they were re-enforced with 500 men, there was nothing he needed to do.
With out the re-enforcements, there was nothing he could do.

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Trailrider

Quote from: Texas Lawdog on March 06, 2014, 02:36:35 PM
The guy who did not who Travis and we're was not a Texan nor had he studied Texas history. When John Wayne's version of "The Alamo" came out, I was in the 7thgrade. We studied Texas history in class and got to go to the movie and see the film. The Alamo is a special to Texans, It is part of the birth of Texas. It is also special to members of the Masonic fraternity, because Masons died at the Alamo, as well as Goliad. Sam Houston, also a Mason, led the Texans in defeating Santa Ana at the Battle of San Jacinto.
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Remember Fanin! Remember Golead! REMEMBER THE ALAMO!
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Your obedient servant,
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Dept. of the Platte, GAF

Trailrider

Quote from: Mean Bob Mean on March 10, 2014, 02:24:17 PM
Santa Ana was an idiot and got everything he deserved at San Jacinto. 

No, Bob, he didn't! The fact that The Raven let Santa Ana live was why we fought the Mexican War! IIRC, after we won that one, Mexico threw Santa Ana out, and he died in poverty in New York City, of all places! Wonder how many lives could have been saved if Houston had hanged the s.o.b.?!  :-\
Ride to the sound of the guns, but watch out for bushwhackers! Godspeed to all in harm's way in the defense of Freedom! God Bless America!

Your obedient servant,
Trailrider,
Bvt. Lt. Col. Commanding,
Southern District
Dept. of the Platte, GAF

Mean Bob Mean

Quote from: Trailrider on March 06, 2015, 01:18:38 PM
No, Bob, he didn't! The fact that The Raven let Santa Ana live was why we fought the Mexican War! IIRC, after we won that one, Mexico threw Santa Ana out, and he died in poverty in New York City, of all places! Wonder how many lives could have been saved if Houston had hanged the s.o.b.?!  :-\

True enough, but he got his ass handed to him and left disgraced and branded a coward, that works for me.  The fact that Houston had more honor than the Mexican Napoleon was what I liked about how it was handled.  We should always end up above our foes in every conceivable way.

Cheers mate
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