Hat Band Cinch

Started by pounder, October 20, 2014, 09:35:03 AM

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pounder

Mornin

This may be off topic, if so I apologize in advance.  I am looking to make a hat band with a cinch similar to the one found on a National Park Service Ranger hat.  I have been told the wrapping is for show and the actual hooking system is a post inside the hat band.  Would anyone have some idea, plan/patterns or maybe pictures of the system?  I have googled till my eyes are bleeding and found nothing.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  ;D     

WaddWatsonEllis

Hi,

Take a look at  Sun Body Hats (http://www.sunbody.com/) They have hat bands under a separate heading, and you might find what you want/need ... then you can make it for yourself or order from them ...

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St. George

That particular hat and hat band is supplied to the NPS by Stetson.

It's pretty easy to replicate - needing only two 1/2"plated rings for hardware, sewn onto something decorative - then both sewn to the previously tooled and edged band and the adjustment strap added to the affair, but it's a royal pain to adjust properly.

Take a look at the 'Service Hats' made by Stetson, and you should be able to see an example.

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Mike Craw

I made two bridles for a National Park Service Law Enforcement Ranger based on the design of the hat band.  There is a website that shows the procedure for wrapping the leather strip between the rings, but it is not for show.  There is no hook, and the lanyard wrap secures the hat band.  On the bridles they are for show. 

If someone could explain the trick, I'd post some photos of the bridles...

Mike

ChuckBurrows

The hat band does not use a button (chin strap does though) and the adjustment is done just like adjusting a cinch with rings at both ends on a saddle with the "knot" at the front - some links below that might helps

http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/workman1/vol1k.htm

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/347/band2f.jpg

http://www.western-saddle-guide.com/tie-a-western-cinch.html
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ChuckBurrows

A variant on the wrap - rather than going back up and through the front ring like a cinch does to knot off this one has the tail end just wrapped around the body several times.....
http://s450.photobucket.com/user/dinerman3/media/March%208%202011/KGrHqJjgE0vfd6Q-BN4D0O2Q_3.jpg.html
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Marshal Will Wingam

Welcome to the leather forum, Pounder. Post a pic of some of your stuff, now and then. This hat strap project sounds interesting. Looking forward to you posts.

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