Euroarms Rogers & Spencer Revolver

Started by Okefinokee Outlaw, January 29, 2013, 03:36:25 PM

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Okefinokee Outlaw


Major 2

The Rogers & Spencer was fine design, but came to late for CW use, so most of the entire manufacture was sold to Bannernan.
Ergonomically,  it is better fit in the hand than a Remington NMA, IMHO ....
The Euroarms copy is rather well turned out, and currently out of production. I'm assume you have found one ?

It was approved by Congress vote at the 2012 convention, and I believe R&D makes ( or did ) a drop-in Cylinder.
Kirst may also have something for the R&S....

when planets align...do the deal !

Okefinokee Outlaw

Found a new one.  Howell makes a drop in conversion.  If I could find someone to strip and case color the trigger and loading lever, it would be super nice.

Major 2

very cool ....  can we get a look  ;D 
when planets align...do the deal !

OklaTom

Quote from: Okefinokee Outlaw on January 29, 2013, 06:22:46 PM
Found a new one.  Howell makes a drop in conversion.  If I could find someone to strip and case color the trigger and loading lever, it would be super nice.

Send it (or your parts) to Classic Guns LTD in Crete IL.  This is who does this for Cimarron and for my store.  Very reasonably priced and not too slow.

http://www.classicgunsinc.com/
"I druther have a pocket full of rocks than an empty gun..."

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Okefinokee Outlaw

Thanks OT.  This forum is great.

Major,  I'll have the gun in about a week.

OO

OklaTom

I have one if those Euroarms Rogers & Spencer and a conversion cylinder. But it seems I never use the conversion cylinder. It happens to be the most accurate percussion revolver I have.
"I druther have a pocket full of rocks than an empty gun..."

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Capt. JEB Forrest

Dixie Gun Works list the Rogers and Spencer as made by Euroarms in the new catalog I just got.

500.00 for complete revolver and 425.00 for the kit.
Commander Cavalry
Department of the Atlantic

OklaTom

Quote from: Capt. JEB Forrest on January 30, 2013, 08:29:24 PM
Dixie Gun Works list the Rogers and Spencer as made by Euroarms in the new catalog I just got.

500.00 for complete revolver and 425.00 for the kit.

It may be in their printed catalog, but they have not had any in a long time.  I have tried on numerous occasions over the last year and a half to purchase a second one, and Dixie has been out.  With Euroarms discontinuing it, I imagine they will stay out of the Rogers & Spencer.  They are not listed on their on-line catalog anymore.  I have heard rumors that Pietta may pick up the model, but rumors are all they are at this time.
"I druther have a pocket full of rocks than an empty gun..."

OklaTom@att.net

Long Johns Wolf

Euroarms sold their machinery incl. that for the R&S to Pedersoli like ca. 2 years ago.
Pedersoli is the "new" maker of the R&S. Recent production R&S here in Germany are marked Pedersoli.
Long Johns Wolf
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Okefinokee Outlaw

But still not available.  I found one on GunBroker, unfired.

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Blair

Dixie Gun works is the best place to buy and/or find out about the Pedersoli 'old or new made' Euroarms firearms at this time.
Once a new location is set up and established... I will report on that contact information.
My best to all,
  Blair
A Time for Prayer.
"In times of war and not before,
God and the soldier we adore.
But in times of peace and all things right,
God is forgotten and the soldier slighted"
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Blair Taylor
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Major 2

Here is a photo of a R&S conversion by Dave Anderson ( photo by Dennis Adler )
it was made for the film "Quick & the Dead" and carried by Woody Strode.

I always liked the look of the Rogers & Spencer but never considered one in all my 30 + years reenacting.
The reason they were to late for CW issue,  and were stored untill 1902 when Bannerman bought the
lot .
Some accounts state some of the guns were unaccounted for and may have been sold to the civilian market
in the 70's  :-\ .

In anycase, NCOWS has approved the design and with or without a conversion it is a very nice looking piece.
I just may have to rethink my past decision.

Blair... I know you have an inside track with David Pedersoli,
Let me know when he reintroduces the R&S I'm sure it will be high quality.

I think I see my next conversion in my mind  ;D
when planets align...do the deal !

Blair

A Time for Prayer.
"In times of war and not before,
God and the soldier we adore.
But in times of peace and all things right,
God is forgotten and the soldier slighted"
by Rudyard Kipling.
Blair Taylor
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Blair

Hi All,

I wanted to add a bit of info to what has already been shared in this thread.

Back a number of years ago, Pedersoli made a deal with Euroarms to buy several of Euroarms guns in the 'white' (unfinished or fitted parts) to build up as their own.
The two revolvers (both cap and ball) Pedersoli choose were the NM 1863 Remington (aka, '58 Rem.) and the Rogers & Spencer Revolvers.
Euroarms (EoA, Euroarms of America). EoA's R&S was considered, at the time, to be the finest and most accurate factory made C&B Revolvers available.
Pedersoli versions of the Remington and R&S were improved with their great attention to cylinder chamber alignment to the bore and rifling, along with overall finish of the end product.

Word broke, about two years ago now, that Pedersoli had bought out EoA. David Pedersoli (DP) has been working to put the 'old' EoA arms back on line with all of DP usual attention to not only their typical quality, but with a greater attention to Historical authenticity. I do not know, at this time, what kind of changes DP needed or wanted to make in these two revolvers?

As I had stated earlier, Dixie GW is probably the best place to get information on either the old EoA or DP versions of the REM. or R&S revolvers.
Any question you folks may have, please feel free to ask and/or e-mail me at  btaylor18 (at) cfl.rr.com  I will try to respond with what info I have.
I hope this might help to clarify some of what is going on.
  Blair
A Time for Prayer.
"In times of war and not before,
God and the soldier we adore.
But in times of peace and all things right,
God is forgotten and the soldier slighted"
by Rudyard Kipling.
Blair Taylor
Life-C 21

Okefinokee Outlaw

Here it is, with case coloring by Classic Guns Ltd. and a Howell 45LC conversion cylinder.

Major 2

Nice Dave, any chance of getting to see it (handle it ) at the convention ?  :)
when planets align...do the deal !

Okefinokee Outlaw


Major 2

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