Kirst or Howell?

Started by griswold, March 06, 2013, 09:06:42 PM

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griswold

Thinking to convert a 61 Navy Uberti to cartridges but not sure which system is better.
I see the photos of the Kirst recoil ring seems to be flat on the bottom where it meets the frame and no attach screws.

The Howell ring has two attachment screws and looks to be designed to fit the frame exactly.

How do these two match up in function? I am not at all familiar with the original Colt conversions in their mechanical design, having never had the opportunity to examine one. Are the originals free floating or solidly attached to the frame?

So which is more authentic, Kirst or Howell? Which is better suited for long life?

Second question. Using VTI parts, how difficult is it to fit a 60 Transition or 72 ejector rod housing to a 61 Navy barrel?
I saw a photo somewhere on these topic strings of a 72 mounted, who could do that chore? Recommendations?

Mossback
Griswold,
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Tornado

I have a Kirst for my Pietta Remington and '60 Colt.  They are flat on the bottom and that keeps them from rotating,  the ring is free floating and not secured to the frame in any way, so it rocks back and forth just a little.  That doesn't affect shooting, but it can slow down loading and unloading on the ported/gated styles.  My '60 is ported/gated and sometimes you need to wiggle the ring alittle to get a shell to line up when loading or unloading.  My '58 has the Pale Rider style and I will have to remove the cylinder and ring to load thus I will not have the issues of the ported/gated style.   If the Howell is drilled, tapped and secured to the frame that is cool feature, but also it would require a little more work. 

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