.44spl. early mod. slam fireing????

[Slamfire]

How  tought are opt for fast draw firing, or fannin,. Appreciate the good the bad and honest view's.






    Hootnix

[Pettifogger]

The subject line and text make no sense.

[Professor Marvel]

Gentlepersons -

If I might dare to approximate a translation ...   Prof marvel has extended his powers of Mesmerism and Mind Reading to believe  Hootmix  is asking how the early model .44 special Colt Open Tops hold up in the "fast draw" and "fanning" games.

(actualy I looked up his prior posts and found our good Hootmix has been posting queries regarding the Colt Open Top revovlers)

It has been my experience that the early open tops and the Colt Conversions made from 1851 and 1860 models are not nearly as stout or robust as the Colt Model P 1873. The cylinders are smaller, less massive and the hand has only the single point that engages the "ratchet", while the Model P hand engages at two places:


Model P Single Action Army hand:


1851 Hand:


I find that when cocked deliberately with one hand the "early Colt designs" work smooth and well, but if one tries to speed cock with the weak hand one can knock them out of time and induce excessive accelerated wear...

fanning also puts undue stress and wear on the softer steels used in the internals of the Open Tops.

The "fast draw fanning" pistols are an entirely different game - serious competitors use heavily modified revovlers with aluminum barrels and beefed up hammers, triggers, hands, etc... and even then they replace them often. Then there's Bob Munden, who can run  5 shots from  Ruger Vaquero faster than normal humans can fire 5 shots from a 1911.

In my callow youth of well over 35 lustrum gone by I ruined the guts of a brass 1851 by fanning it excessively... and began my education in gunsmithing parts replacement.

I do hope this helps and addresses the origional question
otherwise I may have to attend remedial translation and mind-reading classes

yhs
prof marvel ( International Mind Reading champion 3 years running 1832-1836)

[Pettifogger]

I'm still mystified as to how you "slam fire" a revolver.

[Qball]

I'm still mystified as to how you "slam fire" a revolver.

I know, I know 

When the hammer spring is broken, you "fann" it backwards 

[Slowhand Bob]

I have a Uberti that is starting to get a bit tricky in the trigger.  I do not think it will go much longer before it becomes a slam fire model.  Thats when you can cock it and then slam it down, HARD, on the support hand palm and it lets loose, somewhere downrange hopefully.  Thus slam fire revolver! 

[Abilene]

Professor Marvel, your point about the differences in the hands or pawls of the SAA and the Colt percussion guns is correct, but the Uberti Colt '51 and '60 conversions and Opentops have the two-contact-point hands like the SAA.  Otherwise I'd agree with you about fanning being a good way to tear these guns up. 

[Graveyard Jack]

Not a good idea to fan any single action revolver that has not been purpose-built for the task. I don't see a point anyway. Time would be better spent perfecting usable skills with a sixgun. Work on your point-shooting, cocking with either thumb, drawing and firing and then switch hands. 

[Coffinmaker]

+ 1!!!!!!

Coffinmaker

[Graveyard Jack]

All of the stars aligned just right when Uberti made my Cimarron Open Top .44Colt. It's beautifully finished with nice case colors, shoots to point of aim and after a wee bit of stoning and removing a big burr in the hand slot, it's very slick. I get a cold chill thinking about somebody fanning it.

[Slamfire]

Yeooooow!!!!!" slamfiring" wrrrrong word.But all answers are good & honest( and i did ask for it). Proffesor, your translation of said subject was asstoundingly good with a clear explation( and pics.)I now know why you won # years in a row,,,excellent , excellent work. Craig, Abilene, of course ya'll are right one should hot abuse a fine piece, no one, and i would not do so the question was a weak moment of "STUPID". As for the rest of this bunk house crew,,i love the humor and candor, don't ever back-off. I 'm proud to visit with all of ya'll.




  Hootnix (unless all ya'll vote to change my name to " slamfire").

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

I second the motion, Slamfire would be a great "handle"!

[Slamfire]

Craig C, the gray stump and the hazy back ground ,,, it  is beautiful , nice pcs.






   Hootnix.

[Slamfire]

Sir Charles,,it offical  " Slamfire" is my new handle( i think were the only two to vote). thanks  for the 2nd.








        Hootmix.

[buckskin billy]

All of the stars aligned just right when Uberti made my Cimarron Open Top .44Colt. It's beautifully finished with nice case colors, shoots to point of aim and after a wee bit of stoning and removing a big burr in the hand slot, it's very slick. I get a cold chill thinking about somebody fanning it.

not to change the subject but i can't pass up complimenting beauty when i see it. craig that is a very nice open top you got. you got the luck of the draw on that one. my open tops all the case color was mostly a shade of grey. after replacing the firing pins both are mine are good shooters, but the finish has alot to be desired

[Slamfire]

CraigC,,, now that i have me a 72 OT,i also would like to have grips like the ones on your piece,or a lit bone color,,,,they just set the 72 's off,,really nice .








  Hootmix,  ( aka slamfire)

[Graveyard Jack]

Thanks gents! 

[Coffinmaker]

Very ....... Very nice Open Top.  If I thought those white grip thingies would fit mine, I'd volunteer to save you the imbarasment the constant admiration is costing you 

Coffinmaker 

[Graveyard Jack]

I think I can manage.