.357/38 ammo for Winchester/Miroku 1873

Started by stuck_in_73, January 14, 2015, 01:29:37 PM

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stuck_in_73

Ok gents I'm gonna just get to it. As I'm awaiting my new Winchester/Miroku sporting 73 I'm in question on what kind of ammo to get for her. She is in .357/38. I don't reload but am interested in the cheapest priced ammo (not necessarily cheap quality) in .357/38. I currently have a Uberti 73 in .45 colt and I usually go through Georgia arms website. I can get .45 colt for .62 cents a round. But what is a reasonable price for 357/38? Also another question I have is I don't want to blow my gun up putting ammo that's to hot into my rifle. Is all factory ammo ok to use for the 73? Much appreciated guys

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Jeff
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jimbobborg

The closest commercial load that I've found that fed in a Winchester style levergun was 130gr Remingtons.  The bullets stuck out far enough so you won't get double-feeds.  I can't access Georgia Arms here, but I'm pretty sure they have a Cowboy section with .38 Specials, and should be relatively cheap.

stuck_in_73

Will 38 specials tend to jam in the 1873 rifles since the casing is shorter than the .357 mag? Also what shape of lead tip do I need? Round nose? Conical, RNFP? Can this gun handle anything else besides lead nosed bullets or cowboy loads? I've read where people have egnighted a primer in the tube magazine using round nose I believe. Just trying not to blow up my guns.  ??? Also can you run .38 long colt through a .357/38? One last thing, promise. If I decide to shoot black powder through my rifle where can I buy factory black powder ammo? Is Black Hills ammo BP? I'm very limited on my knowledge on .357/38 rifles and ammo as this Winchester/Miroku is my first rifle in this caliber. Bare with me. I'm 29 years old and never grew up with firearms but am adding to my collection. Old west guns tug on my interest and love the heck out of them!  ;D
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hatman

Quote from: stuck_in_73 on January 19, 2015, 12:11:54 AM
Will 38 specials tend to jam in the 1873 rifles since the casing is shorter than the .357 mag? Also what shape of lead tip do I need? Round nose? Conical, RNFP? Can this gun handle anything else besides lead nosed bullets or cowboy loads? I've read where people have egnighted a primer in the tube magazine using round nose I believe. Just trying not to blow up my guns.  ??? Also can you run .38 long colt through a .357/38? One last thing, promise. If I decide to shoot black powder through my rifle where can I buy factory black powder ammo? Is Black Hills ammo BP? I'm very limited on my knowledge on .357/38 rifles and ammo as this Winchester/Miroku is my first rifle in this caliber. Bare with me. I'm 29 years old and never grew up with firearms but am adding to my collection. Old west guns tug on my interest and love the heck out of them!  ;D

For black powder ammo, check out Buffalo Arms.

M113A3

I am researching 1873s currently focused on which Cal. is the best and the .357/38 is a logical choice for plinking, targets and even some hunting although the 44-40 has me interested from both a historical aspect and the excuse to learn to reload...

Anyway you may find this article of interest... Let me know what you think.

Cheers

http://www.chuckhawks.com/winchester_1873_sporter.htm



Shotgun Franklin

There is the wildest outside chance that a RN bullet MIGHT set off another round in the magazine so why risk it? You could buy a couple of different types of factory ammo and see what feeds best in your rifle, then stick with it. If you ever learn to reload then set your dies to replicate the length of ammo you know works. IMO,the answer to most of your questions can be solved by learning to reload. .38/.357 is a really easy round to reload.
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I have found that "semi-wadcutters" don't work well in my '66. The little ridge catches on the chamber edge when being cycled. I have an RCBS Cowboy mould which works excellently. I have the .38-140-CM, but there is a heavier mould available.
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The Round Nose Flat Point is THE Cowboy bullet. I see a lot of shooting, including at work, I've never seen a fail to feed with a RNFP that was caused by that bullet shape.
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