Here We Go Again-Lube Usage

Started by Gripmaker, August 28, 2012, 10:11:24 PM

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Gripmaker

Many years ago I learned a bullet lube method from an Old Timer that was quite interesting and unexpected.  He shared with me that BP cartridge loads will shoot much cleaner and usually more accurately, if the bullet nose is dipped in a liquified lube (usually just melted...whatever he was using) along with the usual groove filling, just before making your shot. I assume this was used in competition only, since it would be quite impractical for hunting or self-defence use (as in "Gooolly, look at all them Injuns!").  Have any of you heard of this and what are your thoughts on this subject?
If you or someone you know has used this method please give a report of results.

Ranch 13

That may or may not work depending on the rifle bore. I can do that in my Italian rifle and while the accuracy isn't necessarily better it does make the fouling in the chamber soft enough that you can chamber a round without a blowtube or wiping.
Try that in my C Sharps and it'll lube warp the bullets and heave them thru the target sideways if they hit it at all.
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sail32

The German Army had a policy of the dipping of .43 Mauser ammunition bullets by the soldiers before rifle practice.  The ammunition was paper patched and had a lube disk under the bullet according to the same source.

rickk

I am certainly not saying it would help or it will hurt... I don't know.

I am just wondering about the practicality of bringing some sort of stove and pot to the range along with the rest of my "stuff" and having a lit stove full of molten wax on the shooting bench while shooting.

Some benchrest shooters do go thru a fairly bizarre ritual for each shot that might be interpreted as the practice of witchcraft at some point in time.

Now where did I put my pair of lucky socks? One is brown, the other is black dontchaknow. Which color goes on which foot is a secret I will take to my grave with me.  ;)




Ranch 13

You don't need a stove and a melted pot of lube at the bench. You can simply stick the bullet nose into a tube of Bore Butter or similar , or just simply roll the bullet nose into a cake of lube. Unless it's 30 below outside chances are pretty good that the bullet lube will be soft enough to stick to the nose.
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Gripmaker

Ranch 13,    That method is probably why your bullets were flying askew from your Sharps.  The old boy made it perfectly clear that the lube must be liquid enough to flow over the bullet evenly but "cool" enough not to run off when chambered (now that does sound like witchcraft).  He said it needed to look and act much like the lube on a .22 cal. LR.  I would think that Lee Liquid Alox would come the closest to what he meant. Haven't tried it, so don't know for sure.

Ranch 13

Grip it has more to do with the smoothfinish of the barrel. The Italian rifle does fine treating bullets that way, the C Sharps with its Badger barrel not so much.
Go ahead and run liquid alox on your bullets. :D then let us know how many patches, and hours it takes you to get that tar out of your barrel.. 8)
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Gripmaker

Ranch 13,   I don't have to wait as I do this now and it has never taken more than two swipes with a wet patch and two swipes with a dry then one with a little Hoppes gun oil.  Barrel is just as bright and shiney as the day I received the gun and it is an Uberti. Estimated rounds put through it...between  3,000 and 4,000.  I also have used Lee Liquid Alox as a lube in CAS shooting BP only and had the same results. I guess you just don't hold your mouth right.

Ranch 13

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