Slightly OT, Need Help Identifying Sewing Machine,.................

[SGT John Chapman]

I found this Singer sewing machine to use in making my CAS stuff,..............I'm pretty sure it's a lock stitch machine but past that I don't know how to thread it or operate it,.............. any help would be appreciated,................

Oh yeah,....I sent a E-Mail at Singer with pics two months ago along with a couple of other places to no avail.....................

[The Arapaho Kid]

That looks like the motor out of my old Go Cart!  Seriously.....I've never seen a sewing machine like that.  I don't even see where the needle goes.  Is it electric?  Treadle?  Motor driven?  Do all the moving parts move?  My thoughts would be....if it's not to bulky and heavy...haul it into a local Singer Shop and let them have a look at it.  Second thought....look up a Singer website on the net.  If they have a "contact us" button, or an 800 number go for it.  You just might have a machine there that Singer would like to put in a museum.  If that happens, you might be able to work out a trade deal with them?

Good luck on this, pard.

[SGT John Chapman]

Kid,......
It's Motor driven with a foot pedal to engage the motor,.........a second pedal spreads the wheels that holds what your sewing,...........The needle comes at you horizontally insted of vertically like other machines,.........as the needle moves in and out a sweep arm picks up the thread and drops it under the needle the needle then comes out over the thread and creates a lock affair............

In the first picture you can see the "Sweep Arm" top center,........the needle point is poking out just past the tip of the "Sweep Arm",..........you can see where it extends into the second wheel too...................

Like I said I sent E-Mail,...........so I guess I might have a go at calling them if this don't produce any good leads..........

[The Arapaho Kid]

STEP TWO:  Crank it up and attempt to run a piece of cloth through it as if you were sewing it.  Watch the action as it works.  Now....start with the needle and work your way back to find out where the thread goes.  There has got to be something to hold the spool of thread.  Now comes the difficult part.  You need to find out where the bobbin of thread goes.  On every sewing machine there are two places for thread.  The spool usualy goes on the top and the bobbin is located under the needle, or in this case in front of the needle.  If it's a lock stitch machine there has to be something for the spool thread to lock onto.  That's what the bobbin is for.

I'm fairly handy with a sewing machine, but this one has me confused!  I've never seen one like that.  It's gotta be an oldie.

[Delmonico]

John, I'll have Terry Lane show this to Restless Rose of downtown Boot and Shoe repair here in Lincoln, but it won't be till Monday or Tuesday.  You might see if any of the local cobblers would know, esp an older one.

As for Singer call, try to see if they have a company historian and see if they could help.  Most large companies do and they are the ones that have any information on old equipment or products.   I use them all the time for my research.  Most are semi-retired and seem to love it when someone calls.

[Silver Creek Slim]

My guess would be it was used in a factory.

Slim

[SGT John Chapman]

BTT,...............

[Badlands Walker]

My attempt to shed a little light on this?  Many, many years ago when I was a young lad & just discharged from the Army, Uncle Sam sent me to a training school to learn to repair industrial sewing machines.  It was a cool job, but not much in the way of a future.  Anyway, the machine resembles a machine (can't remember the makers) that was used to sew cuffs in slacks & also to do heavy material seaming such as coats, blankets, etc...

I'm really surprised that Singer didn't get back to ya on this!

[Pretty Mean Shawme]

Please let us know what you find out!

I just might print the pictures out and take them to my sewing machine man.  He has a lot of old Singers, but nothing like that.

How fun!

[SGT John Chapman]

I'll post the findings right here on this thread, ( unless it goes and runs off) ,............

[Four-Eyed Buck]

Looks like a commercial type maching, If you get to talk to someone at Singer, have any info off patent plates and serial# plates ready for them........Buck

[SGT John Chapman]

I found this PDF file on the singer site,.........it's the directions to the machine.......
                http://parts.singerco.com/IPinstManuals/176-21_22_23_24.pdf

Aparently this machine was used to join furs to make fur coats,..............coyotes look out this year I'm havin me a coat............

[Pretty Mean Shawme]

Thanks for updating us! 

Hey, I have a fur coat I am taking apart to put on a day dress for convention.... need some practice with that thing

[SGT John Chapman]

  Not Yet.............I have  "Honey Do" list a country mile long for before the snow flies,..............