Trail Boss in Milsurp rifles

Started by Drydock, June 24, 2012, 07:42:58 PM

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Drydock

Found the original article I thought lost when the original website expired.


http://web.archive.org/web/20090303144143/http://surplusrifle.com/articles2008/trailbosskiss/index.asp
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River City John

Drydock,

     I hope I'm reading that article correctly. Since Trail Boss is considered a smokeless powder you can leave air gaps in loading?
Or should I treat it like BP and leave NO gap between powder and bullet base?

(Bought some and I think I'll play with a load for the Departmental Muster Long Range in the Vetterli. Article sounds like it will have less of a battering effect on my shoulder . . . ;))

RCJ
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Drydock

As the article says, 9 grains will work in anything from the .30-30 to the .30-06.  I'm not sure what the internal volume of your round is, but IMR gives a general volume guidline on their website.
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pony express

You might try XMP5744 powder for your Vetterli, that powder was made for that kind of use. Trailboss works really well for reduced loads in "modern" bottleneck rounds, but I don't know how well it might work, or at what pressure, in a big bore, slightly bottleneck one.

A lighter bullet may help with the recoil, but since you have to keep the same OAL, it might require trimming cases to a longer length. Then you could use less BP and some kind of filler.

River City John

Thanks all.

Considering it's only two weekends away and I'm booked for this coming weekend, I may not have time to tinker and just might load what I used at the NCOWS National because it is a known.

RCJ

p.s. Too bad I didn't lose that thirty pounds like I wanted, either. ::)
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"He who will not look backward with reverence, will not look forward with hope." - Edmund Burke
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