Black Dawge Ammo to offer Vintage Hunting Ammo

[Rowdy Fulcher]

Howdy
Powder Inc who owns Black Dawge Ammo is testing a Vintage Round . This round is to duplicate the original Winchester round . They are testing loads now to determine the BEST load . Their goal is to load a accurate , and clean as possible round using black powder . And to shoot in the 1300 fps .The 44wcf is the first of the Vintage Ammo , with other Calibers following .

[Steel Horse Bailey]

I'm not above asking about what appears to be obvious, but ... since it is #A) by Black Dawge, and #B) called "Vintage," is it for sure a BP round?

That'd be really cool!  'Specially for them who don't load their own BP hunting rounds.

[Rowdy Fulcher]

SHB
That is exactly correct . They will offer a black powder round to basically duplicate the Original Winchester round . I have fired 23 of these rounds and when I looked down the barrel it was very light fouling at the most . Actually it was as if I had fired 23 rounds of Unique .

[Steel Horse Bailey]

Thanks, Rowdy.  Sounds like good stuff for the Olde West aficionado who wants to hunt using period ammo as well as weapons, ut who can't or doesn't wish to reload for hunting.

Will it be real BP or a sub, like APP, 777, etc. or do they not wish to disclose their "recipe?"  Sorry, I don't really know the subs and which ones are available these days.  I've shot a LOT of BP in my nearly 40 years of shooting the "old stuff," but I've never loaded with ANY of the subs. (I don't count Pyrodex as a real sub, since it is just BP with basically less sulpher)  I did shoot a box of 45 S&W (Schofield) rounds that back about 10 years ago was loaded & sold by CorBon, and I found out later that they used APP or whatever the stuff was that disappeared after the big Lawsuit.  It worked fine, but since I followed it by shooting real BP, I couldn't tell any differences in the residue and such after firing.

PS - that CorBon ammo, called "U.S. Cavalry Reproduction Ammunition" is no longer available unless some old stock is found.  It was sold in boxes of 96 and was loaded in Starline brass.

[Rowdy Fulcher]

SHB
It will be real black powder and SWISS to be exact . The goal is to duplicate the original load .

[Steel Horse Bailey]

VERY nice!

[Rowdy Fulcher]

Howdy
Black Dawge is working on on different calibers . Today  the mailman delivered a package that had the new 44wcf , 45 colt , 45-60 ,
and 45-70 . Will be testing them when I get a day off .

[Steel Horse Bailey]

You lucky Dawge, you!

[Galloway]

A metal patched 160gr 30wcf migh be neat. I wonder which 45 colt they plan on duplicating?

[Rowdy Fulcher]

Howdy
Yesterday I had a chance to shoot the 44wcf , this time it was loaded with the 2f . I fired over the chronie with a 24 1/4 in barrel and a 4 3/4 in barrel . the rifle was impressive and the short barreled pistol was a handful . After shooting cleanup was a snap . I fired 33 rounds in the rifle and afterward looking down the barrel fouling was light .

[Rowdy Fulcher]

Howdy
Today I was able to sample a variation of calibers . I shot a 45-70 load , the 45-60 win. load and a 45 LC load . All three were super clean ( for black powder ) the velocities were all good .

[Rowdy Fulcher]

Howdy
The 45-70 ammo shot a nice small group at 50 yards . The shot group was about an inch . And when I shot them over the chronograph they averaged 1330 fps . Oh did I mention clean up was easy ( for black powder ) Well it's accurate , clean , and the velocities are there .