Another Impressions Question

[Tascosa Joe]

Would a Pancho Villa soldado armed with the carbinas trenta 94 Winchester 30-30 and a Colt New Service or S&W Tripple Lock be GAF legal?

[Drydock]

You could use the 94 and the New Service in the Militia class.  The Triple Lock is post 1900, (1908-1915) thus not allowed. 

[Tascosa Joe]

Thanks,

[St. George]

The soldados loved the 'Caribina Triente-Triente' - hell, they even wrote a song about them -  but the New Service and Triple Locks were pretty new and pretty pricy, so arming up with a Colt SAA or a big S&W DA.44 - or pretty much 'anything' built prior to 'La Revolucion' would've been far more common.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

[Drydock]

You could use a K-frame S&W, though it must have fixed sights and a round butt to approximate the Pre-1900 configuration.  The big N frames are all Post 1900.

[Tascosa Joe]

I have a really nice Colt Army Special, but I prefer bigger bullets.  We (The Berger Sharp Shooters) have a picture of a person who appears to quite possibly be one of Villa's solidados on our web site.  His pistol looks like a S&W to me but I am not sure.

[Charles Isaac]

Fernando Lamas as Chucho Morales in "Powder Keg". It's a little blurry, but that's a Colt's New Service .45 he's menacing someone with-





I think there's quite a few of us that still would like to see someone run one of these huge Colts rapid fire doble action-with a one handed hold "like they did it back then"

I usually run single actions one handed, but when it comes to a DA, I wrap two hands around that mother-especially such a manly a weapon like the Colt's New Service!

[pony express]

Of course, you could use the triple lock in an expansion era match.

[Niederlander]

Charles,
      You should have been at the 2010 Department of the Missouri Muster!  I shot a New Service in .45 Colt one handed, and it IS a handful!  I shot it double action, but I don't know if you could have honestly called it "rapid fire".  They are fun, though!

[Charles Isaac]

For some reason I thought you had fired your M1902 Smith & Wesson .38 in that one and don't know how I came to that conclusion.

I'll draw and shoot one handed with a New Service for a quick shots at close range, but for accurate DA fire, a one hand hold would require me to pull the trigger so slowly that I might as well have just cocked the thing in the first place! The medium frame Smith & Wessons and Colt's New Army and Navy revolvers work OK for me one hand DA, but really need two hands to speed things up.

I bet it was quite challenging to handle that big Colt accurately in one handed double action mode-great job Col. Neiderlander!

[Niederlander]

I think I used the S & W in the national muster.  Once you've used the New Service a while, it's amazing how light and smooth a Smith & Wesson feels.  What's cool is that we can use both as we see fit!

[Grapeshot]

Let's not forget the big S&W Break Open .44's and .45's that were used south of the border in both single and double action.  The Spanish sold a bunch of copies of the S&W New Model Russians to their former colonies as attested to the ones that have surfaced in Central and South America over the years.

[RattlesnakeJack]

Let's not forget the big S&W Break Open .44's and .45's that were used south of the border in both single and double action.  The Spanish sold a bunch of copies of the S&W New Model Russians to their former colonies as attested to the ones that have surfaced in Central and South America over the years.

The "knock-offs" of S&W top-break revolvers were produced in the Eibar gunmaking region of Spain since at least the early 1880's, and were in fact officially approved as sidearms for Spanish Army officers.  Interestingly, two double-action versions were adopted by Great Britain as substitute military service revolvers during WWI, chambered in .455 and officially called "Pistol, O.P. ['Old Pattern'], No. 1, Mark I" and "Pistol, O.P., No. 2, Mark I".  The actual pistols received for service varied a bit in configuration, because they were actually produced by consortiums of small gunmakers, but here are the two War Department "Sealed Pattern" revolvers -





I have an example of each, although at present only my O.P. No. 1 revolver (top) is operational -





I have sometimes wondered if I would be permitted to use one of these revolvers in GAF competition, or even an NCOWS match.  Although manufactured in the early 20th Century, they are definitely 19th Century designs .....

[Drydock]

All S&W top breaks, both single and double action, and any faithful copys thereof, are permitted in the GAF regulations, subject to such limitations as would apply to any other handgun.  (must be related in period to the rifle used, must be reasonable to the presentation, et al.)